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Re: Twilio to lay off 11% of workforce

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Post by nemo44x »

NeverFade wrote: post #409
Manuel_D wrote: post #399

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By contrast, I was at two successful unicorns. They were both large (1,000 and 2-3,000 employees). We had the luxury of having significantly more applicants than headcount. I think the mentality is more that the product is already successful, and we have a responsibility to ensure that that oppressed people don't miss out on that success. The irony is that most "oppressed" people hired at the companies we very well o…

> So in the end, it was a bunch of privileged white people patting themselves on the back for hiring privileged Latin and Black people. While whites and Asians born into poverty, who struggled all their lives against overwhelming odds, were deprived of these opportunities due to the color of the skin they were born in. This is ugly, ugly stuff.

It’s beyond ugly and the irony will be that progressives who are so concerned with how history will judge them will be judged harshly by these positions.

Re: Twilio to lay off 11% of workforce

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Post by NeverFade »

nemo44x wrote: post #451
NeverFade wrote: post #409

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> So in the end, it was a bunch of privileged white people patting themselves on the back for hiring privileged Latin and Black people. While whites and Asians born into poverty, who struggled all their lives against overwhelming odds, were deprived of these opportunities due to the color of the skin they were born in. This is ugly, ugly stuff.

It’s beyond ugly and the irony will be that progressives who are so concerned with how history will judge them will be judged harshly by these positions.

That's why the key point for me isn't that it's illegal (though it is): it's immoral, even if it was legal.

Discrimination against blacks in the South was legal. Plenty of people defended racism on these grounds back then: "it's legal, the courts have approved it, and therefore it must be right."

These are not the people progressives are celebrating today. In fact, they'll cancel you for being at all similar to these people. Yet they are just like them.

Re: Twilio to lay off 11% of workforce

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Post by WesolyKubeczek »

peter422 wrote: post #132
ajsnigrutin wrote: post #97

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To me (someone from a former socialist country), both hiring and firing, based on race, seems very very racist. Replace all the groups with "white men", and if it seems racist then, well, it's also racist when it's any other group except "white men".

Serious question: Are you aware of the historical context of the United States as it concerns race? Without looking anything up tell me what you know about it.

The historical context makes it all even more unfavorable towards Americans as a group. They come out as fundamentally incapable of not being racist or xenophobic. They are only able to fight discrimination with discrimination, and „antiracism” is racism because no matter what sign you put to it, you’re moving along that bloody axis, and it’s being on that axis at all that is the problem, and that you are incapable of derailing yourself from it. It’s just what you do.

But I bet you’ll say that I don’t make sense and that I don’t understand anything, and that history this and context that. So be it. Proves my point, in a way. Dragonslayers turning into the dragons they’ve slain and all that.

Re: Twilio to lay off 11% of workforce

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Post by gampleman »

Manuel_D wrote: post #399
pyuser583 wrote: post #397

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I worked in SF during the same time period, at a small startup. There would have extreme fury at the idea of hiring/firing based on anything but ability. Again, this was a small company. Every person mattered. Every talented hire advanced the company, and every talented departure put us at risk. Even now at the big company I work for, the small team sizes mean each dev either contributes or drains. We even have an in…

By contrast, I was at two successful unicorns. They were both large (1,000 and 2-3,000 employees). We had the luxury of having significantly more applicants than headcount. I think the mentality is more that the product is already successful, and we have a responsibility to ensure that that oppressed people don't miss out on that success. The irony is that most "oppressed" people hired at the companies we very well o…

I think of this as the Left having lost its way (in its own sort-of marxist terms). It's overly obsessed with identity and forgets the much more important discriminant of class. A cynical analysis is that the upper classes are using this as a successful divide and conquer tactic...

Re: Twilio to lay off 11% of workforce

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Post by t0mas88 »

koheripbal wrote: post #416
faxmeyourcode wrote: post #49

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> As you all know, we are committed to becoming an Anti-Racist/Anti-Oppression company. Layoffs like this can have a more pronounced impact on marginalized communities, so we were particularly focused on ensuring our layoffs – while a business necessity today – were carried out through an Anti-Racist/Anti-Oppression lens. Just wanted to add some additional context from the PDF you linked. The civil rights act of 1964…

Most state civil rights laws that list protected classes, specifically only minorities are protected - not white people. That's how it is in NY state.

You are wrong.

https://www1.nyc.gov/site/cchr/law/the-law.page

Re: Twilio to lay off 11% of workforce

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Post by RSieger1 »

anonym29 wrote: post #148
howinteresting wrote: post #79

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To imply there is absolutely no overlap between the group of people espousing CRT and the group of people who believe the world would be a better place if every white person spontaneously died is to be willfully ignorant of an unfortunate reality. We should be taking the opportunity to disavow the latter on behalf of the good intentions of the former.

Yes, unfortunately you're right. Ibram X. Kendi has been biting his tongue.
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