Patreon Lays off 17% of Staff • Hacker News Board

Re: Patreon Lays off 17% of Staff

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Post by honkdaddy » Thu, Sep 15, 2022, 10:44 PM UTC

xani_ wrote: post #448

honkdaddy wrote: post #425

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I mean if it's helpful to you, people can deconstruct the meanings of their colloquialisms so it's more clear, but for most English speakers it's not really necessary. Are you ESL? If I told someone "we'll be working on this report til the cows come home", I wouldn't expect that it's necessary to explain that the expression doesn't actually have anything to do with cattle, and instead just means I'm expecting this to…

That only works if expression isn't purposefully vague or misleading, which most of corpo PR speak is. "Taking responsibility" (taking care of the kid) of condom breaking is a bit different than "taking responsiblity" (doing absolutely nothing of substance) in corporate world.

Right, so one one might use a more specific expression if they were talking about the parental responsibilities of their own future child. Again, you're trying to argue against the well-understood meaning of a colloquialism that most English speaking adults understand.

Your observation that words being said in the corporate world may be interpreted differently than in the bedroom is not a meaningful one and just comes off as uneducated, if I have to be honest. Communication in the corporate world is often deliberately vague, congratulations on your groundbreaking discovery.

Re: Patreon Lays off 17% of Staff

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Post by cooleo » Fri, Sep 16, 2022, 11:55 AM UTC

stoicjumbotron wrote: post #376

RheingoldRiver wrote: post #356

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As a creator it sucks too. I manage a small patreon page for a Discord bot and every time I edit our page I have to relearn how to use the interface. Every time I want to make a post I forget how to...make a post? How in god's name is it possible to make an interface so bad that one has to remember how to make a post? It's completely unintuitive. This is not something that should be difficult lol. (The part I forget…

Apart from Ko-fi is there any good alternative?

I know of Steady in Europe, am sure there are others, too. https://steadyhq.com/

Re: Patreon Lays off 17% of Staff

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Post by hedora » Fri, Sep 16, 2022, 3:52 PM UTC

UncleMeat wrote: post #202

hedora wrote: post #193

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Craigslist has 50 employees, which is closer to 5 than 500.

And its lunch is slowly being eaten by facebook marketplace.

I hope this comment ages as well as it would if you had mentioned MySpace.

Re: Patreon Lays off 17% of Staff

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Post by unity1001 » Sat, Sep 17, 2022, 5:12 PM UTC

Kalium wrote: post #335

unity1001 wrote: post #291

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They didn't lay off their entire security team. What one person among the laid off ones thought to be 'security team' may not overlap with what their company had been doing since a long time. In startups, its not uncommon to have engineers who have been handling various responsibilities, including security (especially early employees).

> In startups, its not uncommon to have engineers who have been handling various responsibilities, including security (especially early employees). You're right! That said, by the time a company is large enough that 17% of it is more than 17 people the kind of startup organization you have wisely and correctly nodded to will have ceased to exist. So while you are right in that such scenarios have, do, and will contin…

> That said, by the time a company is large enough that 17% of it is more than 17 people the kind of startup organization you have wisely and correctly nodded to will have ceased to exist.

Not really. A lot of stuff having moved to services, a lot of stuff being handled in 'no code' manner have simplified organizations a lot these days. Today you can just offload a lot of things to SaaS vendors that can automatically handle those stuff. Instead of having to have entire teams dealing with it like how it was in the earlier decades. You just need a host of capable people to deal with those services on your side, by wearing various hats. So the 'startup format' seems to have become extended to larger organizations.

Re: Patreon Lays off 17% of Staff

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Post by sk5t » Wed, Sep 21, 2022, 2:15 AM UTC

chrisseaton wrote: post #379

sk5t wrote: post #339

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That's regular luck, or at least not bad. Options worth > $0 is an occasion of very, very good luck.

> Options worth > $0 is an occasion of very, very good luck. Why do you think that? It doesn’t require ‘very, very good luck’ for most companies shares to not collapse. If you work for a big company like Oracle or IBM your options have cash value no luck needed.

> Oracle or IBM

What? These are public companies; short-dated OTM options have > $0 value only in volatile markets. But these companies don't pay employees in options.

Re: Patreon Lays off 17% of Staff

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Post by cfeduke » Wed, Sep 21, 2022, 6:29 PM UTC

rendaw wrote: post #418

cfeduke wrote: post #381

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100% this. I subscribe to a couple dozen digital sculptors who provide monthly STL file drops. Patreon's platform is terrible. Their billing is amateur. Their customer support is pathetic. The UI is... just impossible once you get above a few creators. The alternative in this monthly subscription digital sculpting space, MyMiniFactory, is also not great, but it's eating Patreon's lunch by not being actively hostile t…

Digital sculpture sounds really cool. Are the STL files so you can print it? I've looked for something like that a couple times (communities, etc). Can you provide any links?

Yes, for 3D printing in resin (for miniatures) and FDM (for buildings/tanks). I have played tabletop wargames for something like 30 years and the vast majority of digital sculptors cater to my kind. MyMiniFactory[0] is a great place to start, and Cults3d[1] is also good.

0. myminifactory.com 1. cults3d.com