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"and has its military rape children" Yeah, right. The woman spreading these accounts got finally fired. "... also accuses her [Lyudmyla Denisova] of having focused too much on media work, and on describing sexually motivated crimes in gratuitous detail as well as the raping of children in occupied territories. However, some of these accounts, he said, had not been verified, which had harmed Ukraine's reputation and d…

> Yeah, right. The woman spreading these accounts got finally fired. You're speaking like the Russian army is some sort of pillar of society that would never do a thing. We know that they regularly rape, torture and commit war crimes. In multiple cities in Ukraine. This isn't really disputable they even brag on camera about wanting to commit genocide and even castrate people on camera. Here's an article on the crimes…

The wikipedia article you are referring to doesn't even mention rape of children.

It, however, contains this paragraph: "Lyudmyla Denisova, Ombudsman in Ukraine for human rights, "speculated" that sexual violence was being used as a weapon of war by Russian forces.[15][23] Denisova was fired from her position in the end of May, 2022. She later admitted to making "“exaggerated” reports of sexual crimes by Russian soldiers in order to get Ukraine more weaponry.[24]"

Re: German digital signage ban prompts confusion

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> Yeah, right. The woman spreading these accounts got finally fired. You're speaking like the Russian army is some sort of pillar of society that would never do a thing. We know that they regularly rape, torture and commit war crimes. In multiple cities in Ukraine. This isn't really disputable they even brag on camera about wanting to commit genocide and even castrate people on camera. Here's an article on the crimes…

The wikipedia article you are referring to doesn't even mention rape of children. It, however, contains this paragraph: "Lyudmyla Denisova, Ombudsman in Ukraine for human rights, "speculated" that sexual violence was being used as a weapon of war by Russian forces.[15][23] Denisova was fired from her position in the end of May, 2022. She later admitted to making "“exaggerated” reports of sexual crimes by Russian sold…

Its true that it doesn't mention child rape but it mentions rape and torture of plenty of others. The point I was making is that its not like Russia likes to abide by either the Geneva convention or sway away from committing war crimes.

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The wikipedia article you are referring to doesn't even mention rape of children. It, however, contains this paragraph: "Lyudmyla Denisova, Ombudsman in Ukraine for human rights, "speculated" that sexual violence was being used as a weapon of war by Russian forces.[15][23] Denisova was fired from her position in the end of May, 2022. She later admitted to making "“exaggerated” reports of sexual crimes by Russian sold…

Its true that it doesn't mention child rape but it mentions rape and torture of plenty of others. The point I was making is that its not like Russia likes to abide by either the Geneva convention or sway away from committing war crimes.

No, you were trying to disprove "a lot of people ... intentionally spread misinformation with the sole goal to demonize Russia as much as possible" and were caught spreading misinformation.

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Its true that it doesn't mention child rape but it mentions rape and torture of plenty of others. The point I was making is that its not like Russia likes to abide by either the Geneva convention or sway away from committing war crimes.

No, you were trying to disprove "a lot of people ... intentionally spread misinformation with the sole goal to demonize Russia as much as possible" and were caught spreading misinformation.

> No, you were trying to disprove "a lot of people ... intentionally spread misinformation with the sole goal to demonize Russia as much as possible" and were caught spreading misinformation.

They rape, torture and commit genocide. Just because there was one instance of someone being fired doesn't make everything said after false, theres other accounts of child rape too.

For example this article was posted on the 21st of august - https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2022-08-21/russia...

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No, you were trying to disprove "a lot of people ... intentionally spread misinformation with the sole goal to demonize Russia as much as possible" and were caught spreading misinformation.

> No, you were trying to disprove "a lot of people ... intentionally spread misinformation with the sole goal to demonize Russia as much as possible" and were caught spreading misinformation. They rape, torture and commit genocide. Just because there was one instance of someone being fired doesn't make everything said after false, theres other accounts of child rape too. For example this article was posted on the 21s…

Yeah, right, because Denisova was the only Ukrainian person who was lying to get Western help for Ukraine.

The only source this article cites is written answer of Ukrainian prosecutor general’s office and even it mentions only single anonymous case of coercion of 16 year old girl. Which is one too many if true.

Note, that's the same Ukrainian prosecutor general’s office that for eight years failed to investigate the death of 42 people burned alive by Ukrainian nationalists in Odessa [0].

Please read the wikipedia article on atrocity propaganda [1] and how it's been used for ages.

Having said that, I do believe that war crimes inevitably happen in all wars, even in ones waged by 'enlightened and civilized West' [2].

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Odesa_clashes

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atrocity_propaganda

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brereton_Report

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> No, you were trying to disprove "a lot of people ... intentionally spread misinformation with the sole goal to demonize Russia as much as possible" and were caught spreading misinformation. They rape, torture and commit genocide. Just because there was one instance of someone being fired doesn't make everything said after false, theres other accounts of child rape too. For example this article was posted on the 21s…

Yeah, right, because Denisova was the only Ukrainian person who was lying to get Western help for Ukraine. The only source this article cites is written answer of Ukrainian prosecutor general’s office and even it mentions only single anonymous case of coercion of 16 year old girl. Which is one too many if true. Note, that's the same Ukrainian prosecutor general’s office that for eight years failed to investigate the…

> Having said that, I do believe that war crimes inevitably happen in all wars, even in ones waged by 'enlightened and civilized West' [2].

The difference is for Russia the war crimes are a every day thing and expected of Russian soldiers, in the west it’s a big deal when they happen, investigations happen and people even sometimes get charged.

Russia commits genocide regularly in Ukraine and some of them even state it’s the purpose of the war.

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Yeah, right, because Denisova was the only Ukrainian person who was lying to get Western help for Ukraine. The only source this article cites is written answer of Ukrainian prosecutor general’s office and even it mentions only single anonymous case of coercion of 16 year old girl. Which is one too many if true. Note, that's the same Ukrainian prosecutor general’s office that for eight years failed to investigate the…

> Having said that, I do believe that war crimes inevitably happen in all wars, even in ones waged by 'enlightened and civilized West' [2]. The difference is for Russia the war crimes are a every day thing and expected of Russian soldiers, in the west it’s a big deal when they happen, investigations happen and people even sometimes get charged. Russia commits genocide regularly in Ukraine and some of them even state…

And you prove these outlandish statements with what, exactly?
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