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Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by csdvrx »

ge96 wrote: post #449
csdvrx wrote: post #427

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I have a X1 Fold Tablet, and it's the best device I've ever owned I like it so much that I spent time to make it work great under Windows 11: check https://csdvrx.github.io/

Do you have any thoughts with the ASUS vs. what you have? Dang that's an info heavy page that you wrote haha.

Lenovo I trust. Asus, uh... not much on a 1st gen device

In any case, the design is essentially the same, and I care about the form factor. Anything else I can find a way to make it work (or make a way)

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by nomel »

byteflip wrote: post #22

I’m unlikely to buy a foldable laptop, but a foldable monitor while traveling sounds kinda nice. I’m working from a hotel right now, so I can easily imagine it. Folding flat would offer protection from scratches in a bag/backpack and take less space. Would be hard pressed to fit a 17” portable monitor in my bag, but if it folds in half that’s more tenable!

I think XR will end up being a viable, portable, alternative before folding screens become widely available.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by csdvrx »

solarkraft wrote: post #430
csdvrx wrote: post #427

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I have a X1 Fold Tablet, and it's the best device I've ever owned I like it so much that I spent time to make it work great under Windows 11: check https://csdvrx.github.io/

... you need to manually fix it for Windows? Does it ship with Linux or something? Edit: Great read - and your your enthusiasm for the device is getting me interested in it, but what an incredible software shit show. Imagine spending millions on hardware R&D only to release a product that's unusable due to terrible software. Why do manufacturers keep doing this?

> Edit: Great read - and your your enthusiasm for the device is getting me interested in it

Just get one - it's hard to live without it now!!

> but what an incredible software shit show.

Microsoft didn't deliver the OS they were supposed to (bad) but Windows 11 is everything and more (good)

Intel... well, it's Intel. If you go into plane mode before suspend and play with the device manager to restart the device when the driver crashes or use one of my approaches or scripts, it works great!

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by layer8 »

Sholmesy wrote: post #130

Review from Dave2D 4 months ago, addresses the crease & hinge on a pre-production unit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFGhvYLbBRE I think it seems like a cool idea, 17" at 4:3 ratio is alot of screen real estate, at a 12.5" 16:9 footprint. Lot of negativity in this comment section, personally not something I'm that interested in, but I am interested in people experimenting with the form factor.

Just for comparison, this 17.3" 4:3 is the same height as 21.1" 16:9, and it has 185 DPI. If it was a bit larger and slightly higher DPI, I’d consider it as a main monitor for a desktop build. I’m still waiting for an OLED monitor in the 24-27" range with 200+ DPI.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by me551ah »

sneak wrote: post #272
Sholmesy wrote: post #130

Review from Dave2D 4 months ago, addresses the crease & hinge on a pre-production unit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFGhvYLbBRE I think it seems like a cool idea, 17" at 4:3 ratio is alot of screen real estate, at a 12.5" 16:9 footprint. Lot of negativity in this comment section, personally not something I'm that interested in, but I am interested in people experimenting with the form factor.

It’s only 2560 by 1920.

Scaling settings matter a lot more than just resolution

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by varispeed »

eertami wrote: post #372
varispeed wrote: post #215

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I disagree. Buying Dell and Samsung laptop in that price range I'd say it is an overpriced rubbish if you compare to current Apple produce. There is really no comparison when it comes to build quality and performance.

I have an XPS and I personally find it better than the M1 MBP in almost everything except power efficiency, so I have much difference experiences compared to your other review in this thread. The XPS doesn't make much noise and I notice no difference in speed while developing. Some tasks are even faster, because native Docker instead of running via Docker for Mac. The battery doesn't last as long I guess, but it will…

This is not my experience with XPS 15 (2019). It is substantially slower, it is loud and battery used to last less than an hour. Then constantly dying chargers, I had a box of Dell chargers that worked for a month and then laptop stopped recognising them. For the tasks I do (I use Docker heavily) M1 is more than twice as fast in low power mode and never heard fans going off or felt any slowdowns. On XPS if I opened a heavier webpage, it was possible for the entire laptop to slow down and not even refreshing the screen timely, so you witnessed a slideshow and usually only way out was to perform a hard reset. Also random power off or if it goes to sleep it won't wake up. I have to then leave it for an hour and then maybe it will power on (sometimes I have to try a couple of times). This is actually the same experience I had with earlier XPS 13. Google XPS won't power on - plenty of people have this problem.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by varispeed »

viraptor wrote: post #237
varispeed wrote: post #72

I really didn't want to do this, but I bit the bullet and bought M1 MacBook Pro. Oh, having previously worked on XPS 15, this laptop is like next level in terms of pretty much everything. I feel like manufacturers putting Intel or (to an extent) AMD processor in any laptop just waste their time. Sure there will be people who will buy it (who don't know about M1/M2), but it's like buying a legacy technology for premiu…

You're comparing an (I'm guessing) few years old xps that needed replacing, to a last year's premium quality/pricing laptop. I know Intel is still behind on efficiency, but you should try a 12th gen with p/e cores before you write the whole thing off as legacy. Also I'm not sure apple wants to license anything - they're doing quite well keeping the design to themselves.

I had a couple of generations of XPS and I am not convinced it will be much different. I watched a few comparison videos on YT and there was no contest. Laptop would have to be constantly plugged to achieve similar performance to M1 and the fans... the fans is a deal breaker for me. Intel is far far behind now, even with the 12th gen.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by kllrnohj »

KptMarchewa wrote: post #445
kllrnohj wrote: post #428

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> importantly desktop-comparable speed for even heavy tasks like photo/video editing are really, really good Because it has dedicated hardware to make photo & video editing good. Which is great, if that's your jam. It's dead silicon if it isn't, though. M1/M2 strike a great balance for performance & battery life, absolutely. But it's very narrow in what it can achieve desktop-comparable speeds on when it comes to hea…

>But it's very narrow in what it can achieve desktop-comparable speeds on when it comes to heavy workloads Very generally, Java is one of those things. CPU performance is really, really good for non-rosetta workloads. I agree though that despite Apple's wild claims the general GPU performance isn't that good - not that it's bad for very quiet laptop.

> Very generally, Java is one of those things. CPU performance is really, really good for non-rosetta workloads.

Single-threaded (or "lightly threaded") absolutely. But if we're saying "desktop-comparable" and "heavy workloads" I'm gonna assume a multi-core workload and go throw things like the 5950X or 12900K into the ring at a minimum, and the 5995WX at the extreme. M1 ultra starts at $4k after all, it's absolutely fair to include Xeon-W & Threadripper Pros against that. M1's big cores punch above their weight, but they still can't make up that much of a core count deficit.

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