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Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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Post by dskloet »

SoftTalker wrote: post #110
hammock wrote: post #32

Shameless plug for the Jelly 2. https://www.unihertz.com/products/jelly-2 It's not a "flagship" but it is fully featured - nothing spared - and half the size of my palm. The screen is just small enough to be too annoying to do anything really distracting on. I have gotten NOTHING but compliments on it since I started using it a month ago (on a reco I picked up here).

One concern with a very small phone is that it necessarily has a very small battery. If you can charge frequently, or you only use the phone for an occasional text message it may be OK for you, but if you're checking it every few minutes and active on social media you'll likely not be happy with it.

Why not use the third dimension and make it thicker to fit a decent battery?

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Post by cercatrova »

erohead wrote: post #15
perardi wrote: post #6

“matching size and design of iPhone 13 Mini” So, by all accounts, the iPhone mini has been an extremely slow seller. https://www.macrumors.com/2022/04/21/iphone-13-mini-unpopula... Why would that form factor succeed in the Android space? --- I see these meme on tech sites all the time: “oh phones are too big I just want something simple”. That is a valid sentiment that I think is shared by basically no average consum…

I touch on this on the site. 5% of iPhones sold are minis. That's 10m sold per year! That is more than enough demand to cover the NREs and costs of making a phone. * https://9to5mac.com/2022/04/21/cirp-iphone-13-best-selling-l...

But you're not Apple though.

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Post by ajot »

littlecranky67 wrote: post #207
danirod wrote: post #9

I miss my old Moto G1. Light and with a small form factor, and at the same time it was one of the first phones that were cheap but not low quality. It made a breakthrough in a market where you either had an expensive Samsung or you dealt with cheap phones with very bad specs. This was ages ago, fortunately today there are more phones that are cheap but with acceptable specs.

Moto G1 had the perfect form factor, plus also the "rubber" like back which I really loved. I have no idea why glas surfaces on the back are a thing, I always have to use a phone cover as else it would slip my hands. The rubber the Moto G1 allowed for a safe and firm grip, that every phone should have on the back.

+1, the MotoG had the perfect form factor. I'd love for a 2022 phone with a sub 5" screen.

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Post by msh »

Ajedi32 wrote: post #374
vbezhenar wrote: post #367

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can make thick phone. Thick phones are much more pleasant to hold.

That's another thing I want from a phone that no OEM seems to want to make. Make the phone thicker, get rid of the camera bump, and fill the extra space with a bigger battery!

The ulephone power armor series sounds just like the phone for you.

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Post by Bud »

interestica wrote: post #232
nix0n wrote: post #49

Without a 3.5mm headphone jack, I would have to carry wireless earbuds, which would defeat the purpose.

The thing I never understood about the headphone jack and its disappearance: it doesn't need to be a jack. It need only be three contact points. You could have it on the outside rim of a phone and have a magnetic sheath hold the headphone pin to it. But I suppose it's not just about getting rid of the jack itself but also any DAC component? (But, isn't it doing that anyway for the speaker?)

DAC is still there. Current iPhones can still use wired headphones, via the Lightning/headphone jack adapter. That adapter was included free in the box for a while. Now it's $9 or something.

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Post by gopalv »

dan-robertson wrote: post #226
dr_ wrote: post #173

I wonder how much of the limited sales of the iPhone mini could be attributed to the branding? What if Apple were to drop the mini and make this the base iPhone, with the other models being Plus, Pro, Max? Margins may be poorer with Mini, so it likely won’t happen, but I feel mini sales could be much higher if they wanted them to be.

Yeah you can imagine two purposes for the mini: 1. Cheaper iPhone 2. You don’t want to carry a big iPhone and you have a Mac/iPad nearby anyway for anything complicated so a big phone is unnecessary. The second case should motivate wanting eg their ‘pro’ cameras in the small phone but the first case motivates making it cheap and low-margin. You can also imagine a world where apple markets a mini phone as also being a…

> 1. Cheaper iPhone

> 2. You don’t want to carry a big iPhone

If you add those two up, you get "Middle school kids".

Though the apple watch with its own SIM has solved some of the "contact device without instagram" needs that parents want with their kids.

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Post by grishka »

erohead wrote: post #2

I’m a long-time small phone Android user. But after the Pixel 5, I have not been able to find a suitable small Android replacement. The Pixel 6 is gigantic, and the Pixel 7 looks like it is also destined to be huge. It’s gotten so bad that I’ve resorted to using an iPhone Mini, biding my time and hoping desperately that some Android OEM would step up. But it’s increasingly clear that a small premium phone is not on t…

Yes, I'm as frustrated as you are. I want a no-compromise 4" Android phone, comfortably usable with one hand. For me, the phone is a communication device for the outside, that's it. I hardly use it at home except for calls. My primary device is my laptop. I have exactly zero use cases that would benefit from a large screen, yet all of my use cases would benefit from being able to fully use it one-handed. I don't watch any kind of video on my phone because it's a torture either way, and I'm okay with smaller fonts to make more things fit on a smaller screen.

It's gotten so bad I contemplated porting Android to the iPhone SE. Not the complete OS, just the userspace, enough to run SystemUI and apps.

Except: a headphone jack is a hard requirement. If a phone has no headphone jack, it could as well not exist for me.

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Post by soylentgraham »

Im still on an iphone SE (same shell as 5s) and waiting for another iphone this small. The mini is still too big!

I mean, I was a big fan of the nokia 8210, the iphone nano (the long one) and the razr when it first came out.

I dont watch tv/films on my phone because Im not insane, give me a smaller one!

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Post by einr »

Bud wrote: post #455
interestica wrote: post #232

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thing I never understood about the headphone jack and its disappearance: it doesn't need to be a jack. It need only be three contact points. You could have it on the outside rim of a phone and have a magnetic sheath hold the headphone pin to it. But I suppose it's not just about getting rid of the jack itself but also any DAC component? (But, isn't it doing that anyway for the speaker?)

DAC is still there. Current iPhones can still use wired headphones, via the Lightning/headphone jack adapter. That adapter was included free in the box for a while. Now it's $9 or something.

The adapter includes/is a DAC. The Lightning port is fully digital and cannot carry analog audio.
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