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Post by ex_mozilla »

WhyNotHugo wrote: post #377
ex_mozilla wrote: post #230

I'm posting anonymously for obvious reasons. I've been working at Mozilla since its inception. And eventually left the company 2 years ago. And I'm so mad. Mozilla is not the Mozilla that was created almost 20 years ago. It's not the same people there. After the Firefox 4 nightmare, they started hiring product managers from big corp. We started seeing some ex-twitter, ex-microsoft, ex-amazon joining the company. Peop…

I'm sorry about the shit that went down. It makes me mad and I'm just a user, I can't image what it feels like for someone who put years of hard work into it. Do you or any or your former colleagues still have the energy or will to work on a real user-centric, stable, privacy-first browser for the masses? Do you think there's hope of developers potentially wanting to work on an organised fork or something along those…

I actually think that, a few of us would be totally willing to build a new strong, fast and privacy centric browser.

Some absolutely incredible ideas have been discussed about a potential new engine (Servo based) that could be privacy-first / lightweight / fast / bloat-free. This would require rethinking the web in a retro-compatible way, and here again I've heard of some very smart ideas.

… but who's gonna lead that? And where will the money come from?

Re: Each Firefox download has a unique identifier

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Post by tgsovlerkhgsel »

grey_earthling wrote: post #446
tgsovlerkhgsel wrote: post #442

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> Making tools and services for public use is always political Why and how? If I need a hammer, should I care what opinions the guy making it has, as long as he is making (and striving to) make good hammers? Trying to politicize every single seems to be part of the problem here. We're almost at the point where you can't buy a hammer. You can either buy a LGBTQ hammer or a anti-LGBTQ hammer, even though all you care a…

Perhaps the word “tool” was misplaced. For something like a hammer that you can buy once and then just use, the manufacturer's corporate personality isn't really relevant, yeah. But for goods and services where you're (perhaps tacitly) entering an ongoing relationship with the manufacturer — like software, which requires maintenance — the company's reputation is important, and it reflects on the values of the consume…

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Re: Each Firefox download has a unique identifier

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Post by technobabbler »

bigbugbag wrote: post #364
technobabbler wrote: post #332

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Firefox has no real competitive pressure and no need to improve. Google is their sugar daddy and Mozilla stopped innovating a decade ago. It's just constantly playing catchup while suckling on Google teats, desperately clinging onto relevance. Without Google nobody would pay for their browser. At this point it'd be better for the web if we standardized on Blink and moved on, cleaning up some of the invasive tracking…

Modern firefox is called librewolf or waterfox. It respects privacy and works quite well (Actually much better than chrome based browser on my machine). Mozilla management seems to be the issue, not firefox itself.

Yeah, but those projects are forever downstream of Firefox, no? Like they still depend on Mozilla to build new features and such, but then remove the Mozilla-y stuff before publishing?

I think the Chromium model has them forking from a shared base, and Google adds their own Chrome bits after that...? Or am I wrong?

Re: Each Firefox download has a unique identifier

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Post by technobabbler »

neycoda wrote: post #384
technobabbler wrote: post #332

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Firefox has no real competitive pressure and no need to improve. Google is their sugar daddy and Mozilla stopped innovating a decade ago. It's just constantly playing catchup while suckling on Google teats, desperately clinging onto relevance. Without Google nobody would pay for their browser. At this point it'd be better for the web if we standardized on Blink and moved on, cleaning up some of the invasive tracking…

So Google is keeping Firefox alive as a way to stave off anti-trust scrutiny, but crippling it to keep Chrome dominance...?

I honestly don't know why Google keeps funding Mozilla. Maybe it's a "useful fool" type of situation where having an inferior browser they can financially puppeteer helps them set their own standards (via WHATWG), since Firefox tries to keep parity with Chrome. Having another browser toe that line maybe helps legitimize those standards such that Google can remain in control and not worry as much about W3C/Microsoft/Apple domination? I dunno. Just speculating here.

It matters less these days since Microsoft gave up and went Chromium and Apple just doesn't care about its browser. Maybe Google already won and Firefox is on its last breaths?

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Post by technobabbler »

xtracto wrote: post #427
technobabbler wrote: post #401

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Sure, you go ahead and believe that. Every release of Firefox I've tried, including the recent ones, have sucked and been full of spam. I'm angry at them because how the hell did we get here from the beauty of early Firefox and Phoenix? They've become the monster they were trying to fight. You don't agree with my assertions, that's fine. Its marketshare speaks for itself. People don't trust Mozilla anymore, with good…

I'm old enough to remember the news of a "young kid" taking on Mozilla, IE and Netscape with their super lean Firefox browser, that was 20 years ago. It was meant to be lean, with the ability to install additional optional functionality through Plugins. Now Firefox is old and bloated (Pocket?). It never got to be "lean" (always struggling with memory leaks, bad performance, etc) and poor compatibility (not Firefox fa…

Yeah, exactly. Somewhere along the way leadership lost their way and made Firefox into bloated adware and kept uglifying it and mutating its interface to be worse and worse every iteration, all while posting flamboyant front-page news that they've made some major innovation. They haven't, they just... sucked even more.

Re: Each Firefox download has a unique identifier

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Post by abenga »

jiriro wrote: post #350
Slartie wrote: post #315

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Great! And what about all those non-Apple users? Or all those Apple users not on a paid iCloud plan?

> non-Apple users? Don’t know.. perhaps they might consider to get a gadget with that goddamn safari:-) > not on a paid iCloud plan It’s $0.99/month.

Have they tried not being poor?

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Post by CRConrad »

TheGoddessInari wrote: post #431
benibela wrote: post #411

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>High CPU usage I have that problem all the time in Firefox But probably I just opened too many tabs

I tend to open multiple thousands of tabs because Firefox lets me, and it hasn't been a cpu issue on desktop or Android.

Eats battery like Hell on my Android phone.

Re: Each Firefox download has a unique identifier

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Post by technobabbler »

laurent92 wrote: post #458
account42 wrote: post #405

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The whole organization is dying while the CEO gets raises.

Well, they did fire the Christian CEO.

The asshole homophobe who was CEO for like a week? Yeah, he deserved that. If you're going to try to tell people who they can fuck, don't be surprised if they say fuck you right back. He deserved it.

Mozilla was on its downhill slide long before him anyway.

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