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Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Post by 8note »

nitrogen wrote: post #213
unethical_ban wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>In a free society, businesses shouldn’t be able to suppress or punish customers for their political views. >We just need to make political viewpoint a protected class as well. I have not gasped at the outlandishness of an HN post in some time. GoFundMe is not a grocer, or a transit provider. It isn't a power company. It is a luxury service in a free market with low capital requirements. Under no circumstance should…

> >We just need to make political viewpoint a protected class as well. > I have not gasped at the outlandishness of an HN post in some time. How else can a democratic republic preserve the diversity of viewpoints required for such a society to function? This really shouldn't be a controversial idea. Differences of opinion are not only okay, they are essential! Should a conservative landlord be able to evict anyone wh…

That's a misunderstanding of what the transition is - the transition is on how the gender is presented, not the underlying gender.

That's not to say immutability is a great method to determine rights. Mind you, I don't think political affiliation needs such protections. Freedom of expression and association already handle interactions with political affiliation. The government guarantees your ability to have a political opinion, but not for other people respect it or to help you promote it. What people do with their business is still part of their view points - the real solution is to decentralize power more, so that even if you get thrown out for your political opinion, you can always work somewhere else that likes your politics

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Post by PierceJoy »

pessimizer wrote: post #347
PierceJoy wrote: post #297

The blatant misinformation is this thread is astounding. If you think this is “just a protest”, you don’t live in Ottawa and have no clue what’s going on If you think vaccines are being forced on anyone, you have no clue what’s going on in Canada. If you think GFM planned to “steal” the money, you clearly have no clue that the organizer’s plan called for excess funds to be given to charities. The comments in this thr…

> If you think GFM planned to “steal” the money, you clearly have no clue that the organizer’s plan called for excess funds to be given to charities. So Gofundme gets to turn all the funds into "excess" funds?

You're surprised GFM refused to fund an occupation of the nation's capitol?

The charities were being selected by the organizers.

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Post by culi »

tomohawk wrote: post #301

Gofundme is in the trust business. You have to have a lot of trust in them or you won't use them. They seem to be pivoting to a strategy that encourages distrust. This is pretty much how a lot of people view gofundme now: https://babylonbee.com/news/gofundme-freezes-funds-for-child... They are a joke.

I don't know if that's true. I think the participation of many white nationalists in the trucker movement was a disaster waiting to happen for GFM. Ultimately the police were the ones who told them to take it down and they agreed the threat of violence violated their TOS

They followed their standard protocol to offer refunds and then donate any unrefunded money to charities of the choosing of the main organizers. And they've even changed their policy to issue direct refunds instead. I think they're clearly still in the business of trying to maintain their trust

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Post by dang »

jterrys wrote: post #429
defaultname wrote: post #324

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So we agree, GFM should have nothing to do with any occupation, right? You agree with this, correct? You think that I'm some sort of partisan in this -- perhaps a projection -- and you caught me in hypocrisy. But you didn't. Financing protests is an incredibly dangerous game. I was against BLM justified violence and looting, as well as the various "free" zones. I was against the railway blockades in Canada (due to co…

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Please omit personal swipes from your comments here. Your post would be fine without the first sentence.

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Post by PierceJoy »

FpUser wrote: post #410
PierceJoy wrote: post #297

The blatant misinformation is this thread is astounding. If you think this is “just a protest”, you don’t live in Ottawa and have no clue what’s going on If you think vaccines are being forced on anyone, you have no clue what’s going on in Canada. If you think GFM planned to “steal” the money, you clearly have no clue that the organizer’s plan called for excess funds to be given to charities. The comments in this thr…

>"If you think vaccines are being forced on anyone, you have no clue what’s going on in Canada." Yes vaccines are being forced - how else a threat to loose your job can be called. And yes I live in Canada. >"you don’t live in Ottawa and have no clue what’s going on" Do we have a clue about what's really going on in the rest of the world? We do not but it never stops people including HN crowd from judging. I bet you a…

> Yes vaccines are being forced - how else a threat to loose your job can be called. And yes I live in Canada.

I call that a choice. Parent's have a choice to vaccinate or homeschool. Military members have a choice to non-covid vaccine or not be a service member. No one was losing their minds over that.

There are many jobs available that don't require a vaccine.

> Do we have a clue about what's really going on in the rest of the world?

We can just listen to people who live in Ottawa. Among others, the mayor has been pretty clear what's going on.

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Post by dang »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #438
PierceJoy wrote: post #405

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It isn't forced.

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Please stop taking HN threads further into flamewar hell. A comment like this stands out even in a thread as intense as this one.

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Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Post by Mikeb85 »

axiosgunnar wrote: post #300
Mikeb85 wrote: post #101

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As a Canadian, it's been utterly shocking to watch our country crumble in the last few years. This summer I'll be moving away for good. In the last decade I've seen most of my family leave for the US due to the higher incomes. I always kept hope that maybe Canada would get better. It hasn't, it's gotten very bad. The insane level of immigration has eroded away any leverage the working class has. Now you see all that…

Where are you moving to?

Prague, Czech Republic. SO is Czech so we're moving mainly for the lifestyle, culture, plus now with a kid on the way we're concerned about access to education, healthcare, etc... Where we live in Canada it's literally $1 million to purchase any kind of housing whatsoever... We could make it work but I have no family here anyway and for the same money we can live much better there, plus be close to her family...

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Post by elipsey »

I must be the only person here who doesn't already know about these trucking protests; I'm having trouble establishing the basic facts of what is in dispute. Who exactly is required to be vaccinated?

It seems like the fraction of truckers who engaged in cross-border trucking with the US were subject to a Canadian federal vaccination mandate, which applied to some workers in the transportation sector as well as many federal workers, but this requirement was dropped a couple of weeks ago for cross border trucking.[1]

Are the truckers still protesting even though the requirement for cross border truckers to be vaccinated was dropped? Do they have some further demand?

Is anyone here able to kindly cite a (non-editorial) journalistic source which summarizes these events?

[1] https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/canadian-truckers-sta...

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