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What the world will be like in a hundred years (1922)

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Post by wbsss4412 »

thegrimmest wrote: post #421
wbsss4412 wrote: post #417

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You would hold a gun to someone’s head over petty theft or the violation of a contractual agreement?

> over petty theft Yes, I'd have no problem shooting a thief, especially in defence of my primary food supply. > violation of a contractual agreement I'd have no problem holding a gun to someone's head in order to extract what compensation is due to me under a lawful agreement.

Stealing from your primary food supply isn’t really what I had in mind when I was referring to petty theft. If anything I meant stealing a small amount from a significant excess.

> I'd have no problem holding a gun to someone's head in order to extract what compensation is due to me under a lawful agreement.

So if a doctor enters into a contractual agreement with the state to provide healthcare, then it’s ok?

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Post by walshemj »

Spooky23 wrote: post #166
lettergram wrote: post #99

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> Welcome To 2030: I Own Nothing, Have No Privacy And Life Has Never Been Better Let me translate “you are slaves and you rent everything. We base your ability to purchase on a social credit score. But we let you rent houses in our artificially limited VR world.” I don’t make much of predictions like these. It’s ALWAYS a safe bet to assume people will lose liberty. To the point the FED was created in 1913, research w…

It’s probably a waste of time to argue this, but the arguments for central banking were the same as the arguments put forth by Alexander Hamilton. More stability, greater resilience, etc. The arguments against it were vague references to tyranny, orchestrated by people whose wealth is generated from resource extraction and inherited wealth.

Unfortunately some of early American politicians had some cranky ideas about central banks - which caused some economic depressions.

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Post by thereddaikon »

Clubber wrote: post #174
thereddaikon wrote: post #109

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This is also not a new phenomena but something that has been slowly increasing over human history. Before agriculture, humans spent almost all of their time hunting and gathering. Agriculture freed up some time and every major technological revolution has in some way made society more productive and efficient allowing us for more time not working. At some point in the 19th century the concept of leisure time came aro…

>Before agriculture, humans spent almost all of their time hunting and gathering. Agriculture freed up some time Agriculture is more work than hunting and gathering, but it's a much more consistent food source. https://www.zmescience.com/science/hunter-gatherer-farmer-ti...

I didn't say agriculture gave us leisure, I said it freed us up to do other things. You may spend less time hunting and gathering but everyone is a hunter and gatherer. With agriculture a smaller part of your society is dedicated to food production. This allows for specialization and civilization.

Leisure, as we understand it is a pretty modern development. In that study they are defining leisure as the opposite of labor. I wouldn't call that leisure personally. Partaking in or consuming entertainment and hobbies is leisure.

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Post by thegrimmest »

wbsss4412 wrote: post #451
thegrimmest wrote: post #421

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> over petty theft Yes, I'd have no problem shooting a thief, especially in defence of my primary food supply. > violation of a contractual agreement I'd have no problem holding a gun to someone's head in order to extract what compensation is due to me under a lawful agreement.

Stealing from your primary food supply isn’t really what I had in mind when I was referring to petty theft. If anything I meant stealing a small amount from a significant excess. > I'd have no problem holding a gun to someone's head in order to extract what compensation is due to me under a lawful agreement. So if a doctor enters into a contractual agreement with the state to provide healthcare, then it’s ok?

Contracts should have monetary penalties only - you can't sign yourself into slavery. If the doctor breaches a contract, and the contract has provisions for what he will pay in breach, then he must pay it or have it seized (with force). We've long banned debtors prisons for good reason. There's no holding a gun to anyone's head required unless they try to stop you from seizing property to which you have a lawful claim.

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Post by selfhoster11 »

dukeofdoom wrote: post #393
selfhoster11 wrote: post #277

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It's not just intellectually lazy, it's deadly. The last thing we need is to conflate politics with a catastrophe that will wipe out our lifestyle, a significant proportion of species, and potentially our civilization.

This reads more like am emotional outburst from somone with a belief system than an actual opinion. It's hard to argue against belief systems. And it will probably be taken by you in entirely the wrong way. It would be like trying to convincing a hasidic jew the messiah isn't coming. Kind of rude to even try.

I can't tell whether you're describing my own comment or my parent comment. Which one are you describing here?

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Post by MadeThisToReply »

rbanffy wrote: post #245
beaconstudios wrote: post #154

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And predicting the fall of the US... Makes them both nazis and communists? I'm confused by your argument.

It's really hard to be both far-right and far-left at the same time.

What about horseshoe theory?

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Post by dougmwne »

ajmurmann wrote: post #376
dougmwne wrote: post #262

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Of all our technology, I truly think the smartphone is one of the most impressive and futuristic things ever invented. It’s the kind of thing Star Trek thought was hundreds of years in the future and that most sci-fi failed to imagine. It is individually transformative in a way that space flight will probably never be. Our information tech is likely to continue racing forward and this current moment will look analog…

There was a great scene in Station 11 which is partially set after civilization-destroying pandemic in which one character who was born before the pandemic explains to someone who was born after how ride sharing apps worked on a cell phone. It's magic of you describe it from scratch. The tiny device has access to a detailed mail of the entire planet, knows where you are and then a car shows up to transport you to you…

Asimov envisioned printers on spaceships and every evening I put on a pair of goggles that lets me interact with an omnidirectional volumetric display with millimeter accurate head and hand tracking. I think we are starting to outrun our own imagination.
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