South Africa’s omicron coronavirus outbreak subsides as fast as it grew

Post by spookthesunset » Thu, Dec 23, 2021, 4:24 AM UTC

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Thanks for expressing how I feel. Winter was always the worst season for me. With Covid it has become unbearable. I’ve lost 50% of my life quality.

I know how you feel buddy. I have really strict rules for myself around drug and alcohol consumption. For example, if a bottle of Scotch lasts less than 1 week, I am drinking too much and need to cut back etc. I've not broken that rule since I made it, except for this winter and last winter. I was always not a fan of gloomy winters, but this on top of it has made it terrible. I am so over all of the panic and fear. H…

Post by selimthegrim » Thu, Dec 23, 2021, 5:03 AM UTC

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> Some of these places have like 400 ICU beds in a region of 17 million people. That is, of course, far too few (Where is that? I've never heard of a ratio _that_ low for a developed country). But unfortunately, the time to fix it was about five years before it became a major crisis. > You absolutely could 10x that or even 50x that given the fact you have asked hundreds of millions of people to put their lives on hol…

Bullshit you can’t staff them. You have entire nations worth of resources at your disposal. You absolutely could staff a Covid ICU in a month if it was truly an emergency. It would be janky and imperfect but you could do it. It’s an emergency after all. You don’t have time for perfection. It’s 100% excuses. If healthcare capacity was an actual issue we’d have fixed it already and gone back to pre-pandemic normal.

Post by mrjangles » Thu, Dec 23, 2021, 5:07 AM UTC

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Where are they packed? Genuinely curious to see some data about this.

West coast, Midwest, and north east: Ohio, Rhode Island, Alaska, Iowa Providence hospitals on the west coast are overwhelmed Hennepin hospitals are overwhelmed in Minneapolis Trinity Health with hospitals in 25 states is also getting overwhelmed https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/12/21/1066093... “ The troops deployed to hospitals will include doctors, nurses, paramedics and other personnel during January…

Post by lamontcg » Thu, Dec 23, 2021, 5:45 AM UTC

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I’ve been tanking some downvotes for the past few days for saying this. Disease spread is only exponential for a brief initial period. It is not a good mental or even general model for how disease spreads. We have two years of observational covid data that shows this to be true. Spread slows down rapidly long before reaching 100%. People hear “5x as infectious” and reason that due to the nature of exponential models,…

In real world I got critized badly even for pointing out media only showing "numbers of infected" and walk into any hospitals now one will see significant less patients than during the peak. We all will get sick from flu. Do we keep harping the potential of Spanish flu return? If we treat everything with utmost cdc-lab4 kind of safety, a lot of things we can't do and even earn a living. Up to a point, people need to…

Post by koonsolo » Thu, Dec 23, 2021, 7:09 AM UTC

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Based on excess mortality numbers, it seems fairly likely that we're already over a million deaths that would not have happened without COVID19.

What will be interesting is to see the long term mortality rate. My hypothesis is we’re just accelerating the deaths of people over 70 years old (70%+ of the cases). If that’s true, you’d see a decrease in mortality over the next few years. Covid is basically doing what the flu does every winter (but on a larger scale) - it pushes people close to death over the edge.