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Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

#452

> We’ve also heard directly from smaller creators, and those just getting started with their YouTube channel, that they are unfairly targeted by dislike attacks Wow. Well, the politically motivated truth behind this change is pretty darn obvious, right? If you're confused what I mean, check any US mainstream media video with an obvious political slant but pretending to be "objective news" and look at the like/dislike…

The change has been in the works since 2019 https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/02/youtube-doesnt-like-...

Was it "politically motivated" then? Or just when it confirms your own biases (now)?

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

#453

This is a damned shame. I use dislikes to gauge if a video is relevant to the topic at hand. For example, I like fixing stuff and use Youtube for unfamiliar items. Often videos with a high number of dislikes are Spam (usually a bot reading text from some website), Videos where the person handwaves through the steps, videos where the fix is improper, or videos where the creator spends more time monetizing than working…

Seems like a combination of top-rated comment and likes divided by viewcount will yield similar information, though...

With this move I expect non-positive comments days to be numbered. Any feature that doesn't align with brand positivity is fair game to be removed.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

#455

> We’ve also heard directly from smaller creators, and those just getting started with their YouTube channel, that they are unfairly targeted by dislike attacks Wow. Well, the politically motivated truth behind this change is pretty darn obvious, right? If you're confused what I mean, check any US mainstream media video with an obvious political slant but pretending to be "objective news" and look at the like/dislike…

Every video that correctly describes the benefits of the COVID vaccine and makes it to the front page is spammed with dislikes, and this constitutes a major threat to public health. No, this is actually a very important change.

The public health of who exactly? The people who have refused to or chosen not to get vaccinated?

It’s like a seatbelt. You can require that everyone have access to one but you can’t require that everyone use one.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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post #296

The dislike button on YouTube videos is one of the few remaining signals that what you are seeing is propaganda. It hadn't occurred to me that this would happen (although it seems obvious) and it is unexpectedly frightening to me. I suppose the fallback will be videos with comments enabled, where people can 'like' a comment who is saying something common sense and reasonable in response to the content.

How does the dislike button indicate propaganda? It seems most people are engaging with YouTube in the same bubbles as any other social media platform. The "propaganda" videos I see (when searching for them) on YouTube don't have large dislike ratios, they are very much liked by the people who consume that content. An example is PragerU videos.

> How does the dislike button indicate propaganda?

Take the Gillette ad as a great example. No dislike button? Now the “lack of downvotes” can be used to indicate the normalization of such propaganda and imply people support the message.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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post #296

The dislike button on YouTube videos is one of the few remaining signals that what you are seeing is propaganda. It hadn't occurred to me that this would happen (although it seems obvious) and it is unexpectedly frightening to me. I suppose the fallback will be videos with comments enabled, where people can 'like' a comment who is saying something common sense and reasonable in response to the content.

In my experience, if a video has comments disabled, it's probably bad. The lack of signal is itself a signal.

You must not frequent the same subset of videos I watch.

The amount of trolling (or just outright stupidity, hard to tell sometimes) on e.g. CS conference videos or lectures by women is insane. I entirely understand that the organizations putting those videos up don't want to deal with that nonsense.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

#459

Odd that a certain political party got a large amount of downvotes on all their videos and YouTube removes the publics ability to see them soon after.

or perhaps its merely co-incidental but because some people/activists are always so thirsty about politics _any_ event can be correlated to their political lens.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

#460

Any chance we can make a browser extension that registers votes of and shows vote counts for installed users? Google would fight it. But we could always side-load if they do.

that could work for any url, by the way. you could vote/downvote and discuss
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