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The rise of never-ending job interviews

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Re: The rise of never-ending job interviews

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Post by rcxdude »

jcelerier wrote: post #399
pjerem wrote: post #364

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd be curious if you already saw / read about a working Linux installation on NTFS. IIRC, even WSL works with an EXT4 layer.

https://github.com/nikp123/ntfs-rootfs/blob/master/guide_in_... does not seem trivial given the differing permission model, but not impossible either. for fat32 I wonder though if the total absence of permissions allows for that.

There's a few things you'd need to patch up because a few important utilities are picky about the permissions of their config files (as a protection against misconfiguration).

Re: The rise of never-ending job interviews

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Post by tonyedgecombe »

danielmarkbruce wrote: post #388
neilv wrote: post #323

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> the entire question was: What's not in a Linux inode? Were they considering you as an experienced developer of a Unix/Posix filesystem, who would almost certainly know what an inode is? Or were they considering you as someone who had been using a Unix so long and extensively that you had a chance of once having had to configure an older filesystem for huge numbers of inodes. Or a chance that, for some rare reason,…

It was probably an opener for discussion. Assume the best about the interviewer for a minute. What is the best possible interpretation of where they wanted to go with the question?

But this was the third or fourth round. By then you might expect a meaty discussion about file systems rather than a trivia quiz.

Re: The rise of never-ending job interviews

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Post by rwmj »

jd115 wrote: post #424
silisili wrote: post #119

My one and only Google interview went this way years ago. Each round they'd send me more books to study, which frankly I couldn't be bothered to read given the circumstances. My experience ended when an interviewer in round 3 or 4 asked me an obviously scripted question. I answered sarcastically, he got peeved, and I never heard from them again. I'm not claiming I'm Google caliber, whatever that means. Obviously I'm…

I interviewed for a software engineering position with Goldman once (in London). The process spanned several weeks of phone interviews with people in the UK and US (I lost track of the count), followed by a full day of back-to-back interviews on-site with 12 different people - some via video conference with New York. Questions were extremely diverse, both wide and deep. Early on in the process I decided to look at th…

I once had a weird interview at an investment bank for a backroom sysadmin position. I went to the interview in a smart cotton tennis shirt, black trousers, and was interviewed by a bunch of techie people wearing pretty much the same kind of clothes. The interview covered many technical issues and seemed to go really well.

When I got out and was on my way home, the recruitment consultant phoned me up and quite literally screamed at me for about 5 minutes down the phone about why I hadn't worn a suit. He didn't mention this interview requirement beforehand.

So yeah, weird things happen at investment banks :-) I didn't get the job obviously.

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Post by planet-and-halo »

LAC-Tech wrote: post #102
MattGaiser wrote: post #63

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> where I realised no one gave a shit about anything except my utility as a walking set of tech keywords. I am genuinely asking. Why is this objectionable? Why do people find it so horrible that their labour is a commodity? To me that just tells me I should treat my labour like a merchant treats his goods. Always be checking the market to ensure you have something worth selling and while you might sign long term deal…

> Why is it important to you that your employer view you as a person? It's not about being viewed as a person. It's about being viewed as a professional.

Great response. This is why I ended up not becoming a teacher, despite everyone and their brother telling me that that's my calling (I still hear this at work constantly from people I train). I could have absolutely dedicated my life to something with low pay. What I would not do is accept an environment where I was not treated as a professional. As far as I can tell, the modern American education system treats its educators like crap and hamstrings them every step of the way. No thanks.

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Post by xvector »

jd115 wrote: post #424
silisili wrote: post #119

My one and only Google interview went this way years ago. Each round they'd send me more books to study, which frankly I couldn't be bothered to read given the circumstances. My experience ended when an interviewer in round 3 or 4 asked me an obviously scripted question. I answered sarcastically, he got peeved, and I never heard from them again. I'm not claiming I'm Google caliber, whatever that means. Obviously I'm…

I interviewed for a software engineering position with Goldman once (in London). The process spanned several weeks of phone interviews with people in the UK and US (I lost track of the count), followed by a full day of back-to-back interviews on-site with 12 different people - some via video conference with New York. Questions were extremely diverse, both wide and deep. Early on in the process I decided to look at th…

The software industry interview process is such a disaster. The worst part of every job I've ever had (including FAANG) is hitting the LeetCode grind when I want to leave. It's so fucking worthless. Just a giant waste of time. This entire fucking industry has its head up its ass.

I can't think of a single other high-paying profession that pulls this shit.

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Post by cudgy »

“Google, for example, recently examined its past interview data and determined that four interviews was enough to make a hiring decision with 86% confidence, …”

Does this mean that 14% of Google hires are incompetent for their role at Google?

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Post by peoplefromibiza »

Nition wrote: post #150
silisili wrote: post #119

My one and only Google interview went this way years ago. Each round they'd send me more books to study, which frankly I couldn't be bothered to read given the circumstances. My experience ended when an interviewer in round 3 or 4 asked me an obviously scripted question. I answered sarcastically, he got peeved, and I never heard from them again. I'm not claiming I'm Google caliber, whatever that means. Obviously I'm…

And yet if they ask you for an answer to a quirky question like "why are manhole covers round?", they expect a clever answer like "they can't fall in", rather than a pedestrian answer like "well, probably they just started making them that shape for some simple production reason, and then everyone else just kinda of did the same thing because it worked."

> "why are manhole covers round?"

asked that question I would have answered: "that's a trick question! they are not round!"

http://www.theromanpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/cropp...

Re: The rise of never-ending job interviews

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Post by killtimeatwork »

xvector wrote: post #457
jd115 wrote: post #424

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I interviewed for a software engineering position with Goldman once (in London). The process spanned several weeks of phone interviews with people in the UK and US (I lost track of the count), followed by a full day of back-to-back interviews on-site with 12 different people - some via video conference with New York. Questions were extremely diverse, both wide and deep. Early on in the process I decided to look at th…

The software industry interview process is such a disaster. The worst part of every job I've ever had (including FAANG) is hitting the LeetCode grind when I want to leave. It's so fucking worthless. Just a giant waste of time. This entire fucking industry has its head up its ass. I can't think of a single other high-paying profession that pulls this shit.

It's not that stupid from company's point of view - they're preselecting for people who really want the job, and have enough energy to pursue it. These are the people you want to for your company.
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