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Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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I don't understand why many of these workstation-class laptops have num. pads. It is so annoying to type with your hands off-center from the screen.

I don't understand why many workstation-class laptops DONT have a num pads. It is so annoying to have to type long sequences of digits without one.

even if I had that use-case, I'd still be annoyed having the typing home position off-center.

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

#452

Why aren't there any bold laptop manufacturers? This is a 2021 laptop that uses USB-A primarily, a meh panel, and no particular standout design features. Why do I have to get a mac if I want actually good design? System76 should take a risk and truly make an interesting laptop. leaving the standard, boring design to the big name companies.

Perhaps you may be interested in https://puri.sm/products/librem-14. Some more info about its innovations: https://puri.sm/posts/librem-14-adding-librem-ec-freed-embed...

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

#453

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Don't they support USB-C charging? I compared the other days all their models, those that rated at 65W all supported USB-C charging.

I don't think so. Clevo are known to be the OEM behind many (all?) of System76's laptops. In Australia they're sold under the brand of Metabox. The System76 Pangolin tech specs[1] match the Metabox Edge specs[2] and visually match as far as I can tell identically, and neither mention USB-PD or Charging capability. Metabox specifically call out USB-PD capability on their other range of laptops, so I don't think it's a…

Here they do: https://system76.com/guides/lemp10

Notice "65W+ USB Type-C Charging Compatible" in specs.

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

#454
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I'd love to replace my thinkpad. But I need/want things that seem unavailable. * trackpoint + buttons (can be without touchpad, disabled anyway) * full keyboard * strong durable * removable battery * 4k screen * ecc 64-128gb * rj45 * lots of ports * hardware switches to disable: networking, camera, mic,.. Thinkpad's are move farther away each year. I hope some company will fill the gap.

I'm on the same boat as you: my ideal laptop would be an x220/x230 on the outside with a 1440p display and a modern CPU on the inside. I can't understand why Thinkpads are moving away from this absolutely perfect design in the name of... slickness? Why are laptops with a minimal (or non-existing) touchpad so difficult to find? Once you start using the trackpoint your wrists feel incredibly relaxed at all times. Why d…

Not a solution that scales, but if you really want a modern CPU variant of the x230, check this: https://www.xyte.ch/shop/x330-pricing-list/

They also have the T25 frankenpad: https://www.xyte.ch/shop/t25-frankenpad-kit/ and https://www.xyte.ch/thinkpads/t25-frankenpad/

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

#455

Why aren't there any bold laptop manufacturers? This is a 2021 laptop that uses USB-A primarily, a meh panel, and no particular standout design features. Why do I have to get a mac if I want actually good design? System76 should take a risk and truly make an interesting laptop. leaving the standard, boring design to the big name companies.

Perhaps you may be interested in https://puri.sm/products/librem-14 . Some more info about its innovations: https://puri.sm/posts/librem-14-adding-librem-ec-freed-embed...

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Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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I've been looking around for a good linux laptop dev machine and am starting to resolve around the idea of having multiple desktops. It's cheaper with better support for replacing parts as well as linux. The laptop market churns way too much for my liking and I feel like the second I move away from my macbook pro (work) I'm going to be disappointed with the quality. When it comes to development, my goal is to be able…

The closest I came was my XPS 15 9560. The build quality and hardware was excellent. i5 + GTX 1050 + 8GB RAM + 256 GB NVME + Thunderbolt. Linux support was phenomenal, especially on a rolling release. After about 18 months of owning it, I upgraded the memory to 16GB and storage to 1 TB without any problems. Unfortunately, I ran into a few issues trying to use it as a work and home machine. 1) Mixed DPI is insanely ba…

>4) Selecting the Nvidia graphics disabled on-board audio. I had to either use USB or Bluetooth. I never figured this out despite countless hours of messing around with alsamixer. My best guess is that it was trying to direct everything over the HDMI out even though that wasn't plugged in. The Intel drivers were loaded, just every time I selected the Nvidia chip, the audio devices would disappear.

Try sudo alsactl restore

I have a Dell G5 with Nvidia RTX and my headphones do not work when I start it

Took me a few months of investigation, but that alsactl command fixes it in 90% of situations

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

#457

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I don't understand why most developers that work in a stationary location use underpowered/thermally-constrained laptops rather than a desktop machine.

Because I work in multiple stationary locations. Even during pandemic. If I really wanted to work on desktop I'd need to buy a car and bother with transporting it few times a week, or I'd need to buy multiple desktops and move only external SSD. And in that case it would be a luxury, but I'd still want a laptop for occasional work and entertainment from couch.

Or you could have a powerful desktop machine and SSH/RDP into it from a less powerful laptop.

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

#458
post #27

I'd love to replace my thinkpad. But I need/want things that seem unavailable. * trackpoint + buttons (can be without touchpad, disabled anyway) * full keyboard * strong durable * removable battery * 4k screen * ecc 64-128gb * rj45 * lots of ports * hardware switches to disable: networking, camera, mic,.. Thinkpad's are move farther away each year. I hope some company will fill the gap.

Sounds like you want something along the line of what Purism is offering. Not sure about ECC ram on a laptop. Haven't seen that one yet. https://puri.sm/products/librem-14/

Thinkpad P series has ECC

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

#459

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> could just be my sight It is 1080p to 4k is such a large difference

Really? On a 13" display? I bet in a blind AB test at a normal viewing distance you wouldn't even be able to accurately tell me which is which.

And people can’t really tell 30fps from 60fps from 120fps either, right?

Once you see and appreciate the difference, you can’t unsee it. Anything less is jarring.

Print media figured out three to four decades ago that print buyers prefer at least 144 lpi for black shapes, at least 300-600 dpi for grey images, and minimally 300 dpi but ideally 1200 dpi for colour photos people will consider high quality. (Note: For reader convenience I’m mixing lines per inch or lpi with dots per inch or dpi here, lines is per screen but there may be several screens per image, so dpi is the source material you’re trying to reproduce with screens.)

We’ve been settling on computer screen quality for too long. If all we did was video, fine, but we spend most time simulating print.

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

#460

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I don't think so. Clevo are known to be the OEM behind many (all?) of System76's laptops. In Australia they're sold under the brand of Metabox. The System76 Pangolin tech specs[1] match the Metabox Edge specs[2] and visually match as far as I can tell identically, and neither mention USB-PD or Charging capability. Metabox specifically call out USB-PD capability on their other range of laptops, so I don't think it's a…

Here they do: https://system76.com/guides/lemp10 Notice "65W+ USB Type-C Charging Compatible" in specs.

That's a different laptop.
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