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Dyson air purifier outperformed by cheap DIY box fan filter in Marketplace test

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Re: Dyson air purifier outperformed by cheap DIY box fan filter in Marketplace test

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Post by saurik »

brmgb wrote: post #450
tw04 wrote: post #435

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Plenty of people need to rethink their parenting then. I laugh when my kid falls down. I scream when I saw my kid trying to stick a key into an electrical outlet, and I screamed when I saw my kid trying to put a finger into a vornado fan. Modern fans aren't the same as the box fans we grew up with. And adult would likely walk away with an emergency room bill and a bunch of stiches. A small child would likely lose a f…

If it makes you sleep better, most household fans are designed to not severe fingers. They use plastic blades (please don't buy household fans with steel blades) which are both light and dull. You might break it but a major cut is highly unlikely.

Yeah... if anything I would have said the opposite: I remember when fans were made of metal or at least had sharp plastic blades. Now, everything's designed for some combination of cheap construction and liability reduction. (And, also, feels a bit more "disposable"... the fans my parents had when I was a kid were designed to be taken apart to fully clean, and I do remember taking them apart and running them without the covers as I was "one of those" kids ;P but I think I'm just expected to throw these plastic fans I have away if they get dusty?...) I just purposefully stuck my pinky finger into my fan on fully speed and it didn't even hurt. (I guess I'll admit that the Vornado on the other side of the room looks a bit more intimidating, but I'm not sure I could actually get my finger into it anyway... the one where I succeeded was actually really hard as, despite my fingers being pretty slender and long, I could barely find an angle where I could touch the blade.)

Re: Dyson air purifier outperformed by cheap DIY box fan filter in Marketplace test

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Post by pjkundert »

ortusdux wrote: post #4

I still cannot get over this product. They whole selling point of a dyson fan is the 'air multiplier' tech, which creates a low pressure zone that propels air through the ring. According to dyson, this tech can move 15x more air than the fan in the base of the unit. Why in the world would you build an air filter around a system that does not directly interact with 93% of the air it moves? https://www.jameco.com/Jamec…

No open air filter system interacts with more than a small volume of the air in a space!

So long as it cycles the air frequently enough, eventually it will capture particles proportional to its basic filtration capability.

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Post by HeWhoLurksLate »

Spivak wrote: post #355
jb1991 wrote: post #317

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Says no one who has ever raised kids.

I mean you can tell you kid 100 times not to touch the stove but they don't lean the lesson until they actually try once when you're not looking.

...or they notice that the thing is red and radiates heat and decide not to touch it because it looks scary

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Post by Spooky23 »

ortusdux wrote: post #4

I still cannot get over this product. They whole selling point of a dyson fan is the 'air multiplier' tech, which creates a low pressure zone that propels air through the ring. According to dyson, this tech can move 15x more air than the fan in the base of the unit. Why in the world would you build an air filter around a system that does not directly interact with 93% of the air it moves? https://www.jameco.com/Jamec…

Everything Dyson is overpriced dreck, except for the handheld. 5% more function for 200% more $.

Cheap vacuums are way better than they were. I bought a $60 upright at target for my office 5 years ago, it sucks (in the good sense) and is reliable. It does not have a ton of attachments, but it was $60.

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Post by sitharus »

ashtonkem wrote: post #309
detritus wrote: post #214

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The company famed for creating bagless vacuums added a 'bag' to a product that doesn't necessarily need it? Dyson's stance on Brexit makes ever more sense... .

Having just gone back to a bagged vacuum, I genuinely wonder why people ever accepted bag-less vacuums in the first place. Aside from the “empty the canister out and watch all fine dust float back into my house” issue, vacuum bags function as one massive filter. It’s not physically possible to build a filter into a bag less vacuum that approaches the size or capability of the vacuum bag itself.

Bags are a razors + blades model. The vacuum is $100 but the bags are $30 for 3 if you buy the branded bags. Plus the suction on a bagged vacuum measurably decreases before the bag is full.

These days I have a roomba and a Dyson cordless stick vacuum for occasional use.

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Post by adolph »

jodrellblank wrote: post #393
edelans wrote: post #335

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I'm afraid you missed the joke here =)

I can't tell if they missed the joke about losing 10 fingers and having to stop there, or if you missed their joke that you can insert the same finger multiple times as long as you only lose a bit of a finger each time.

All the above forgot toes

Re: Dyson air purifier outperformed by cheap DIY box fan filter in Marketplace test

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Post by rblatz »

darkstar999 wrote: post #258
rblatz wrote: post #30

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After watching his dishwasher episode I lost all respect for him. He clearly forced that episode and his conclusions were predetermined so he could have a clickbait video title/theme.

All respect? Sheesh. He still makes great content even if you don't agree with that single video.

It just kind of ruined it for me. There is so much great content out there, and maybe I’m being too picky but I’d rather watch something else now.

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Post by adolph »

catmanjan wrote: post #366
Judgmentality wrote: post #344

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Would you rather take a chance at greatness, or a certainty at mediocrity? No guts no glory.

Surely laughing when your child falls over leads to them enjoying others misfortunes

No it’s a cognitive framing thing. The concept is to make a toddlers tumbles into not a big deal for them. I think it is also in part an overreaction to the common “oh you poor baby” response which is thought to encourage children to be upset when they fall. I favor the Montessori guide approach of observing|ignoring and giving a kid a chance to make up their own mind to ask for help or deal with it themselves. The optimal approach probably depends on the kid.

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Post by bredren »

tareqak wrote: post #33

The recommended pick from the Wirecutter is the Coway AP-1512HH Mighty (as of this post, the recommendation was last updated January 15, 2021) [0]. The CADR is available on Coway's product page in what I assume to be imperial units given the units of the other specifications: "233 (Smoke), 246 (Dust), 240 (Pollen)" (under "Specification") [1]. This CADR score puts it just between the BlueAir Blue Pure 211 and GermGua…

Was wondering if I’d see this model mentioned. I’ve bought four of these, given one away.

One in living room, bedroom, one is boxed for an office I’m setting up.

Couple notes on this: It is the iPod of air conditioners in its UX and look.

The lights on the top are too bright and can’t be dimmed, we cover them in the bedroom with a taped piece of heavyweight paper.

The filters do need to be either clean or replaced on a reasonable basis but catch all manner of stuff that you’d either inhale or clean off other things.

Better air is like less noise pollution. I believe you can improve the quality of ambient environment you should.

It isn’t always obvious it is helping. I can’t measure how much faster the fried food I cooked no longer smells because of it.

That said there’s a reason we use AirPods Pro’s to isolate from distractions. I think air filters can be a simple way to improve quality of life.

I would use a box fan if we had fires in Oregon again. (Our coways had the angry red light on and ran full speed for days, they were not enough.) But it’s not practical to have a box filter going every day of the year.

One more item, this Coway _occasionally_ goes on sale for $120 on Amazon. If you see it for that price grab it because it lasts only a couple of hours.

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