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Rocky Linux: A CentOS replacement by the CentOS founder

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Re: Rocky Linux: A CentOS replacement by the CentOS founder

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Not sure if there are solid evidence established to prove this, but Cockroaches are believed to be capable of surviving large amount of radiations (like from nuclear bomb), hence they thought it would be apt for a geographically distributed DB. https://sciencenotes.org/can-cockroaches-survive-nuclear-bom...

I wonder if they brainstormed something like BunkerDB when deciding on a name with that in mind.

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Re: Rocky Linux: A CentOS replacement by the CentOS founder

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I charge more per hour for my consulting, I had a bottle of wine that cost about that last week for dinner. What revenue do they actually get out of that model?

They don't, Canonical's finances are terrible. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25450835

To be fair, they do much more work than CentOS ever did (or Rocky would have to do).

In fact, Ubuntu does too much development for its own good. People jumped on it because it was “a usable Debian updated more often”, and they got all sorts of crazy UX experiments.

Re: Rocky Linux: A CentOS replacement by the CentOS founder

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Maybe it's a bit too obvious to spell it out, but 1. Red Hat Inc. does not want people to build and/or distribute gratis RHEL8 or clones. It would be trivial to just put the actual RHEL8 iso as an unsupported download on their ftp/www server and sell the support separately, like Oracle or Canonical do. Instead, they kept this ridiculous make work project called CentOS around, that involved non-trivial manual labor me…

> If you think I'm wrong, just put up a mirror of the RHEL8 (not CentOS8) SRPMs and see how long it stays up. Clearly they're not acting in the spirit of the GPL, even if they are in the letter. The GPL doesn't require you make the sources public to everybody , just the people to whom you are distributing your software. But Red Hat does provide sources, to everybody . They go above and beyond what the GPL actually re…

>But Red Hat does provide sources, to everybody. They go above and beyond what the GPL actually requires.

If you had been around in the late 90s, their lip service was that they were far more than just "providing sources to everybody" (as if that's some feat), and far more about the spirit of GPL and the triumph of FOSS than what the GPL letter requires...

Of course that was lip service, like Google's "Don't be Evil", but don't go around pretending Red Hat is some benevolent "above and beyond GPL" entity...

Re: Rocky Linux: A CentOS replacement by the CentOS founder

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It's supposed to be against the GPL, but no one is willing to chase it.

In what way is it "supposed to be against the GPL"?

The same way something like "we can tell you, but then we'll have to kill you" would be against the spirit of the Freedom of Information Act.

Re: Rocky Linux: A CentOS replacement by the CentOS founder

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One thing to consider, for the folks that assume everyone on CentOS is a parasite allergic to paying for software... CentOS is heavily used in the HPC academic organizations, in part because paying licensing fees for an OS on 2k+ nodes isn’t workable in academia.

Indeed we're running CentOS on the cluster at work. I always wondered, why not Debian ?

Re: Rocky Linux: A CentOS replacement by the CentOS founder

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One thing to consider, for the folks that assume everyone on CentOS is a parasite allergic to paying for software... CentOS is heavily used in the HPC academic organizations, in part because paying licensing fees for an OS on 2k+ nodes isn’t workable in academia.

Don't they use scientific linux (CentOS clone?)

SL died some time ago.

Re: Rocky Linux: A CentOS replacement by the CentOS founder

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One thing to consider, for the folks that assume everyone on CentOS is a parasite allergic to paying for software... CentOS is heavily used in the HPC academic organizations, in part because paying licensing fees for an OS on 2k+ nodes isn’t workable in academia.

Don't they use scientific linux (CentOS clone?)

Scientific Linux has been abandoned in favor of CentOS.

Re: Rocky Linux: A CentOS replacement by the CentOS founder

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>CentOS 8 was never officially supported until 2029 so we did not go back on anything The thing though is that RedHat is responsible for that impression. Every previous version of CentOS before 8 has been supported until the upstream RHEL pulled the plug. CentOS’s official page said it would be supported until 2029 ( https://archive.is/7Qmtw ). A reasonable person would infer that CentOS (now controlled by RedHat, so…

It's a wiki page. An official wiki page, perhaps, but still a wiki page that anyone can edit.

Okay, so who made that edit? Was it someone in a position to speak in an official capacity?

Re: Rocky Linux: A CentOS replacement by the CentOS founder

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> 1. Red Hat Inc. does not want people to build and/or distribute gratis RHEL8 or clones. It would be trivial to just put the actual RHEL8 iso as an unsupported download on their ftp/www server and sell the support separately, like Oracle or Canonical do. Instead, they kept this ridiculous make work project called CentOS around, that involved non-trivial manual labor meticulously rebranding RHEL into RedHat owned Cen…

I think one of the reasons people don't really value "enterprise stability" is because it is mostly a myth.

Agreed. The reason is more "we are running supported software in a supported combination of hardware, OS and application". That's what auditors are looking for. I've yet to see a real benefit beyond the paperwork advantage.
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