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Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

People chose to use Apple because it seems like a benevolent dictatorship. And frankly, a benevolent dictatorship is basically the best government you can have, as long as you're part of the "in-group" who doesn't push boundaries, doesn't cause trouble, and supports the supreme ruler, Kim jon... cough* Apple. --- The problem is that no matter how good the dictatorship might be today, it will eventually bite you. You…

Speaking as an ex-Google user and an ex-Apple customer (still tied to Apple Music and iCloud for family phones), I'd compare Google to Russia - not particularly benevolent, a bit chaotic/random, citizens tend to shrug and accept their lot. Apple is more like Singapore, slick, seemingly benevolent, citizens honestly question why the rest of the world isn't run the same way. EDIT: I'd add another way in which Google is…

I like that.

I think it makes Linux some sort of United States: users like the principles, but almost all use one of the 50 major implementations, which tend to have small differences. When defending any perceived shortcoming, they will point to a different implementation without the particular flaw, or argue that the feature is not only unnecessary but undesirable.

Many outsiders are uncomfortable with the unwavering commitment these users have for the principles. Others often talk about moving to the USA, or how they plan to, but few make the effort to do so.

[The last paragraph convinced me the analogy was better with the USA than the EU.]

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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> I'm puzzled that people are willing buy a computer/OS where (apparently) software can/will fail to launch if some central company server goes down. Maybe I'm just getting this wrong, because I can honestly not quite wrap my head around this. This is such a big no-go, from a systems design point of view. The answer is pretty simple: these problems are extremely rare, they don't last very long, and they tend to have…

It's even simpler than people not caring, people don't know.

Furthermore, if you’re one of the few who do know and it bothers you, you can turn it off.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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OCSP is Online Certificate Status Protocol. The connection to ocsp.apple.com is checking the status of the certificate used to code sign the launching app. I wrote an article about this a couple weeks ago because of the temporary revocation of HP's signing cert for printer drivers on the Mac: https://lapcatsoftware.com/articles/revocation.html

So is checking for security certificates good or bad, now?

If you've suffered inconvenience from having checks but not suffered inconvenience from no checks, then it's bad.

If you've suffered inconvenience from no checks but not suffered inconvenience from having checks, then it's good.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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They use a server like in one server like in single point of failure?!

dig ocsp.apple.com reports:

    ;; ANSWER SECTION:
    ocsp.apple.com.  3593 IN CNAME ocsp-lb.apple.com.akadns.net.
    ocsp-lb.apple.com.akadns.net. 53 IN CNAME ocsp.g.aaplimg.com.
    ocsp.g.aaplimg.com. 8 IN A 17.253.21.201
    ocsp.g.aaplimg.com. 8 IN A 17.253.119.201
"ocsp-lb.apple.com.akadns.net" is an entry indicating DNS based load balancing, done by Akamai.

Even with lots of redundancy, there are still lots of ways all that can fall over. You can have a batch of servers that soft-fail: they're not responding to real queries but the load balancer thinks they're healthy.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

#456

This isn't anything surprising. A handful of companies out there have been working hard for the past few years to kill the personal computer and turn it back into a dumb terminal that connects to a mainframe owned by them, and they've managed to do it. Nomenclature also matters - they've stopped calling them "computers", now they're just "devices". Enjoy your $1500 dumb terminal. If you're still buying Apple products…

tbh I do see these macs as dumb terminals, what else are they?

These sweet dumb terminals can last 15 hours on a charge? nice, I'll just update the /etc/hosts when I get it.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

#457

Sincerely and without any intention to troll or be sarcastic: I'm puzzled that people are willing buy a computer/OS where (apparently) software can/will fail to launch if some central company server goes down. Maybe I'm just getting this wrong, because I can honestly not quite wrap my head around this. This is such a big no-go, from a systems design point of view. Even beyond unintentional glitches at Apple, just ima…

The worst part of this is that Apple could have easily predicted this, that there would be demand to download the new OS, and put in place measures to prevent this from happening. I guess they just do not care.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

#459

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People chose to use Apple because it seems like a benevolent dictatorship. And frankly, a benevolent dictatorship is basically the best government you can have, as long as you're part of the "in-group" who doesn't push boundaries, doesn't cause trouble, and supports the supreme ruler, Kim jon... cough* Apple. --- The problem is that no matter how good the dictatorship might be today, it will eventually bite you. You…

Speaking as an ex-Google user and an ex-Apple customer (still tied to Apple Music and iCloud for family phones), I'd compare Google to Russia - not particularly benevolent, a bit chaotic/random, citizens tend to shrug and accept their lot. Apple is more like Singapore, slick, seemingly benevolent, citizens honestly question why the rest of the world isn't run the same way. EDIT: I'd add another way in which Google is…

> Apple is more like Singapore, slick, seemingly benevolent, citizens honestly question why the rest of the world isn't run the same way.

Apple is more like a Vatican and Google is like Saudi Arabia. Both corrupt in different ways.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Unbelievable. When I read the tweet (tried to post here as well), I suddenly realized why my Mac was unresponsive an hour ago. Here is another tweet that describes the problem in more detail: https://mobile.twitter.com/llanga/status/1326989724704268289 > I am currently unable to work because macOS sends hashes of every opened executable to some server of theirs and when `trustd` and `syspolicyd` are unable to do so,…

Huh apparently I win by still being on an old OS version?

Depends on how old, I guess. I'm running Mojave, and ran into the problem.
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