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One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

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Re: One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

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Post by sreekanth850 »

pritambarhate wrote: post #225

As an Indian, I think here some points I think western world needs to know about India. * "Gaming the system" to get your desired outcome is widely accepted in Indian society. Especially if it doesn't involve breaking any laws (not ethics). Even in many cases Gaming the system by breaking the law is considered OK as long as one doesn't get caught doing it. (In fact this might be the only way to come up in politics in…

Well Said pritam. I am also from India and i see many of my friends run away for free thing. eg: Till September 30 They used google meet for their online classes and now they are searching for another free alternate. It is very sad to see this culture of spamming and gaming. Infact this is one reason why many Saas Companies dont prefer India as a matured market as they will use the free system and wont ever upgrade to a paid plan.

Re: One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

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Post by saagarjha »

mcv wrote: post #294
saagarjha wrote: post #226

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I entirely understand why this change was picked and will maintain it was a bad choice. However, I don’t think I can fault them for doing that when the alternative would take significantly more time and effort and detract from the point they were trying to make, which is the steps necessary to make a pull request and not the expected content of one. Given the results, however, I would very much appreciate it if the a…

He still could have prepared a legitimate pull request in advance. It was a terrible example, and the more I read about it, the more I think it was intentional and never had the intention to help Open Source projects in any way.

He could (and should) have, but I do not think that he intentionally tried to hurt open source projects.

Re: One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

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Post by saagarjha »

tremon wrote: post #318
saagarjha wrote: post #226

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I entirely understand why this change was picked and will maintain it was a bad choice. However, I don’t think I can fault them for doing that when the alternative would take significantly more time and effort and detract from the point they were trying to make, which is the steps necessary to make a pull request and not the expected content of one. Given the results, however, I would very much appreciate it if the a…

I don’t think I can fault them for doing that when the alternative would take significantly more time and effort Isn't that basically the definition of spam: "but making something useful would take significantly more time and effort"?

Well, I'm considering it in the context of a YouTube video, where there's a length limit and such. Usually you get around this by actually doing the work beforehand and swapping it out, or doing something simple and then saying that this isn't actually representative which is easier and doesn't require a cut but can lead to the issue we see here. Again, I can't fault them for choosing to do this, but I can still say it ended up being a poor choice.

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Post by Zarel »

noja wrote: post #299
rjmunro wrote: post #283

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The point of the date it to tell people when the material was created. In some jurisdictions / situations, copyright expires N years after it was created, so that date tells people when copyright has expired. Unfortunately, in many cases now, copyright is based on the year the author died, rather than the year the work was created, which means it is much harder to work out if something has entered the public domain.…

> Changing the date without changing the code significantly is arguably fraudulent. In some countries the publishing date is what counts, and they define publishing for websites as when the site was viewed.

Presumably, even if publishing date is relevant, it's only first publication that's relevant. No work should stay copyrighted forever just because it's constantly being republished.

Re: One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

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Post by whatever_dude »

cainxinth wrote: post #386
farias0 wrote: post #322

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The exactly same goes for Brazil. Am I seeing a pattern here, i.e. countries that are supposed to be great but really aren't?

I was backpacking Europe years ago and I met this Brazilian girl. We were discussing places that required a visa and she said she never bothered with them. I asked how that was possible. She said that if anyone ever questioned her she just acted confused and found a way to sneak off. I was flabbergasted. She simply (and proudly) explained: "It's the Brazilian way of life!"

She's right. It even has a name, "jeitinho": https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeitinho

Re: One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

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Post by Uhhrrr »

YeGoblynQueenne wrote: post #413
_dbdw wrote: post #306

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"Gaming the system" is also a cultural thing in Greece. In fact, it's so expected that you are perceived to be either out of the loop or a fool for not going the extra mile. I broke friendships with people who claimed that "it's all subjective at the end of the day" whenever I was raising ethical/moral concerns. Imagine not being able to provide a reasonable argument to justify your actions, beyond of "because I'm al…

I'm Greek too (γειάα) but live in the UK. It's a cultural thing here, too. Just imagine everyone around you constantly trying to pinch every last penny off your purse, in any way they can think of. Or, look at the way the Brexit campaign convinced half of the UK citizens to vote for Brexit with unsubstantiated claims like "350 million to the NHS" or "Millions of migrants from Turkey coming over" etc. In general, I th…

Facebook is actually a good example of the opposite tactic. They leave a lot of money on the table because they don't need it and it could hurt their platform dominance.

Re: One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

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Post by lubujackson »

pritambarhate wrote: post #225

As an Indian, I think here some points I think western world needs to know about India. * "Gaming the system" to get your desired outcome is widely accepted in Indian society. Especially if it doesn't involve breaking any laws (not ethics). Even in many cases Gaming the system by breaking the law is considered OK as long as one doesn't get caught doing it. (In fact this might be the only way to come up in politics in…

I have to say, I love this.

Yes, things get fouled up from time to time but this is really the same as the old hacker ethos. It is the mindset that led to Woz building a computer from scratch, the internet being an open system and the concept of open source thriving.

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Post by livre »

Thorrez wrote: post #151
bobbyi_settv wrote: post #139

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No, he renamed it to "package: An Amazing Project.json"

Windows doesn't even let you have a colon in a filename!

I suppose it is because the colon is used for NTFS alternate data streams, see the example in the introduction here: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/stre...

Re: One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

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Post by dcow »

mensetmanusman wrote: post #412
keeganpoppen wrote: post #409

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huh well i came into that very dubious, but that was actually quite interesting and i listened to every word. i will hand it to religion that they have had a fairly consistent answer to the post-modernism / relativism / post-truth-iness and its attendant ugliness in present times-- the same answer as before any of those things even existed, in fact. xD

I agree! Glad you enjoyed, have a great day

If you like this you should watch James Lindsay over at New Discourses. He just co-authored a book on this whole topic with Helen Pluckrose from Aero magazine.
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