This all sounds very misguided on Fortnight's end.
Apple just kicked Fortnite off the App Store
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#452Indubitably Bad
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#453This is why I could never get interested in any Apple products. They can keep their walled garden to themselves.
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#454Imagine if Microsoft did this on PCs. a) prohibiting the installation of non-windows store software (sideloading) and b) insisting that all purchases done via apps give them a 30% cut. I think this is a ridiculous practice on the behalf of Apple.
Epic is famous for buying exclusive rights for games to make people play on their store. I hope they like eating their own food now.
That's not right...but imagine that...but every app and mobile game in the world. That's Apple. It's different.
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#455Earlier quoted context omitted.
Even worse. Imagine if the World Wide Web was not open and you had to go through a closed WWW like AOL and websites were "under review" by the providers and would take a 30% cut of your revenues or clicks on your web app or subscription service and websites require going only through that provider. Thank goodness that wasn't the case.
That's a little silly as an example because AOL was exactly like this back in the day and had curated channels. You could still access external sites if AOL was your ISP as well but anything inside of the AOL application was reviewed by AOL. Also, the web is not even a great analogy period since it wasn't created by a private company. Apple created their phones, their App Store, they maintain it, and they provide the…
It's not silly at all. Until 1995 home internet access was too expensive and AOL didn't offer support for http or any kind of internet access - only services provided by them. If they had the foresight they could of crushed the early internet and prevented it from ever happening. A 100% firewalled and paid service that wouldn't look much different than the cable companies at the time. People don't realize how lucky we are that the potential the internet provided flew under the radar for so long.
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#456You could argue about Apple's rights, or citizens' free speech rights, or consumer rights, under existing law. It would be an interesting discussion because I think it's a lot more complicated an issue that most people appreciate. But really why not talk about how we think things should work on platforms like iOS? What should the law be? What protects essential human rights, encourages creativity, and allows business…
Let‘s take the example of an autonomous car. Would you also argue that you have the right to run any software on it? Looking a bit further down the line toward a society with more prevalent and powerful AI there will need to be some kind of certification that the software you are running is safe. It will be almost impossible to enforce this without the help of device manufacturers who will be mandated to only run saf…
> Let‘s take the example of an autonomous car. Would you also argue that you have the right to run any software on it?
Absolutely, let's take the dumbest example possible. Good.
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#457My first thought was that this had more to do with the order against Tencent than violating Apple policy.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/08/13/pom...
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#458You could argue about Apple's rights, or citizens' free speech rights, or consumer rights, under existing law. It would be an interesting discussion because I think it's a lot more complicated an issue that most people appreciate. But really why not talk about how we think things should work on platforms like iOS? What should the law be? What protects essential human rights, encourages creativity, and allows business…
A big part of the value of iPhones and iPads is that you don't have to worry about installing an app that screws up your system and requires a wipe & reinstall. You don't have to worry about viruses. You don't have to worry about spending a lot of time being a system administrator, and just use it. You don't even have to worry about many types of malware, because the system protects you from poorly-behaved applicatio…
I get that this is a preference, and that this preference makes it a challenge for third parties to maintain profit margins while reaching as many consumers as possible.
So what's the other option? Just don't offer your games at all on a platform like iOS, and people need to own multiple smartphones just to get all the apps and games they want?
It doesn't seem like a solution.
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#459This makes me feel a million years old.
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#460Earlier quoted context omitted.
The difference is that if you own an Apple device, you knew you were buying into a walled garden ecosystem. Windows was not sold that way, so for them to cut off unapproved apps would be a bait and switch.
If you're a Hacker News reader you do, but does the general population? The iPad Pro has been promoted as a laptop replacement, for example.
They might not be familiar with the term walled garden but I've definitely heard the non-tech savvy talk about iPhone being more restrictive.
Even if they don't though, that's a marketing offence not a product one. If there's any government interference needed it's in the form of a mandatory "walled garden" label on the box.