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YouTube TV sharply increases monthly subscription to $64.99

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Re: YouTube TV sharply increases monthly subscription to $64.99

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Post by mnm1 »

chrsstrm wrote: post #83
mnm1 wrote: post #79

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Just cancel now. You still get the rest of the current month you paid for and there's no need to worry about forgetting. I just cancelled mine. "Rough around the edges" is a nice way of describing an app that doesn't play what I click on but random shit it feels like.

You don't think announcing this rate hike on the morning of the last day of the Q2 is coincidence? Sounds like most people's accounts are scheduled to renew in August, which would be much more impactful if we all waited until then to cancel. The knee-jerk cancelations today are fully expected and accounted for.

Yeah, but that would require paying them another month at the already twice inflated price. No thanks.

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Post by 29athrowaway »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #276
29athrowaway wrote: post #133

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I pay for YouTube Red because I can skip through ads. It's worth it. In YouTube TV you get to see unavoidable ads, unlike in TV where you can switch the channel while those ads are running.

> I pay for YouTube Red because I can skip through ads. It's worth it. Hard to see how this could possibly be worth it, since you can also skip the ads for free.

Not all ads can be fully skipped, and skipping the ad takes at least a couple of seconds. You can also get multiple ads in a video.

I use YouTube for many purposes: music, learning, recreation, etc. and i'd rather pay like $10 a month than spend 1 hour a month watching ads.

For the record, I do not care at all about YouTube Red exclusive content.

Re: YouTube TV sharply increases monthly subscription to $64.99

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Post by listenallyall »

FeepingCreature wrote: post #304
listenallyall wrote: post #284

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Anti-bundling rants based on subsidizing unwanted channels are illogical. You're annoyed at paying for cable channels you don't watch but OK paying full freight for Netflix where you'll watch less than 5% of the available content? You're subsidizing the other 95%! Or that a-la-carte channel you want, you won't be watching it 24 hours per day so why subsidize programming that's on when you're sleeping or at work? Do y…

> Or that a-la-carte channel you want, you won't be watching it 24 hours per day so why subsidize programming that's on when you're sleeping or at work? You have correctly identified the business case for cinema and DVDs.

There's something about your use of "correctly" here that seems hostile, arrogant and antagonistic. This isn't a quiz, nobody was even talking about movies or DVDs, and I certainly wasn't seeking "FeepingCreature"'s validation.

Re: YouTube TV sharply increases monthly subscription to $64.99

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Post by chrsstrm »

jeegsy wrote: post #357
chrsstrm wrote: post #71

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A road warrior VPN setup running on a Raspberry Pi 4 and placed in your home costs less than $50. There are 1000 reasons to have one anyway, and watching TV while traveling is also one of them. I know for a fact the Spectrum TV app works quite well under this setup.

Do you have a good link that explains how to do this? I am very much interested in implementing that

This OpenVPN[0] setup works very well and uses certificates for auth. It's easy to use and you just need to set up port forwarding in your home network so you can dial in from remote.

These days all the cool kids are using WireGuard[1] though. I don't have a link to a handy installer and setup guide for that but they do exist.

Using a Pi 4 with gigabit ethernet makes a big difference over older Pi hardware.

[0] https://github.com/Nyr/openvpn-install

[1] https://www.wireguard.com/

Re: YouTube TV sharply increases monthly subscription to $64.99

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Post by thaumasiotes »

29athrowaway wrote: post #452
thaumasiotes wrote: post #276

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> I pay for YouTube Red because I can skip through ads. It's worth it. Hard to see how this could possibly be worth it, since you can also skip the ads for free.

Not all ads can be fully skipped, and skipping the ad takes at least a couple of seconds. You can also get multiple ads in a video. I use YouTube for many purposes: music, learning, recreation, etc. and i'd rather pay like $10 a month than spend 1 hour a month watching ads. For the record, I do not care at all about YouTube Red exclusive content.

> Not all ads can be fully skipped, and skipping the ad takes at least a couple of seconds. You can also get multiple ads in a video.

You're not watching them right. All ads can be fully skipped, preemptively, at a time cost of zero. If you don't like the ads, just don't watch them. There's no reason to pay for YouTube Red.

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Post by Zenbit_UX »

voodootrucker wrote: post #333
burlesona wrote: post #175

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The conventional TV channels don't allow their networks to be sold a-la-carte because they all make more money via the bundle than anyone would be willing to pay for their channels individually. Remember that most of these channels are related - for example, NBC owns Telemundo, SyFy, USA, Bravo, E!, Oxygen, etc. They sell all of those through bundles and keep $20/mo or so, but how many people would pay that much for…

America has a lot of problems, but they all look strangely like anti-trust: https://mattstoller.substack.com/

What about obesity?

Re: YouTube TV sharply increases monthly subscription to $64.99

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Post by adamrezich »

voodootrucker wrote: post #333
burlesona wrote: post #175

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The conventional TV channels don't allow their networks to be sold a-la-carte because they all make more money via the bundle than anyone would be willing to pay for their channels individually. Remember that most of these channels are related - for example, NBC owns Telemundo, SyFy, USA, Bravo, E!, Oxygen, etc. They sell all of those through bundles and keep $20/mo or so, but how many people would pay that much for…

America has a lot of problems, but they all look strangely like anti-trust: https://mattstoller.substack.com/

really turned off by that landing overlay

Re: YouTube TV sharply increases monthly subscription to $64.99

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Post by happymellon »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #358
happymellon wrote: post #251

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Or click on the favourite link, or bookmark it, or literally anything else other than worthless comments like this. This isn't Facebook.

Facebook has saves and if you click the timestamp link you can bookmark, etc.. The 'comment to bookmark' is just as wrong there.

Don't know and literally don't care.

Facebook brings up the dregs of humanity, so I am not surprised when I see worthless comments. I would hope for a slightly higher quality of comment here though. At least we don't have

> First post!

Re: YouTube TV sharply increases monthly subscription to $64.99

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Post by jpeeler »

chrsstrm wrote: post #71
texasbigdata wrote: post #67

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Not the same. Only works at home

A road warrior VPN setup running on a Raspberry Pi 4 and placed in your home costs less than $50. There are 1000 reasons to have one anyway, and watching TV while traveling is also one of them. I know for a fact the Spectrum TV app works quite well under this setup.

I see you commented below that you used OpenVPN for implementing this. I tried using a self-hosted Squid proxy with the Spectrum website, but was unsuccessful at getting it to work. I also tried routing the traffic over SOCKS5 (using ssh -D) and it still didn't work. This was a while ago, but I recall that the website was using Flash. I'm just assuming that the website was using Flash to do some local network checking outside of the tunneled traffic and that's why it didn't work, but I'm uncertain if that makes sense. Sounds like I should have tried a full traffic solution like a VPN...

Re: YouTube TV sharply increases monthly subscription to $64.99

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Post by 29athrowaway »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #455
29athrowaway wrote: post #452

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not all ads can be fully skipped, and skipping the ad takes at least a couple of seconds. You can also get multiple ads in a video. I use YouTube for many purposes: music, learning, recreation, etc. and i'd rather pay like $10 a month than spend 1 hour a month watching ads. For the record, I do not care at all about YouTube Red exclusive content.

> Not all ads can be fully skipped, and skipping the ad takes at least a couple of seconds. You can also get multiple ads in a video. You're not watching them right. All ads can be fully skipped, preemptively, at a time cost of zero. If you don't like the ads, just don't watch them. There's no reason to pay for YouTube Red.

Not watching them involves waiting a few seconds for the skip ad button to appear.

That time adds up to 30 to 60 min a month. Let's say 45 min a month in average. That means, saving 45 min of my spare time costs $12, the cost of YouTube Red.

45 min of my spare time is much more valuable than $12, so I just pay for it.

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