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Re: University of the People: Tuition-Free, Accredited Online Degree Programs

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Hello guys studying at UoPeople has really helped me a lot especially academically. When i first heard about this great online learning plartform from a friend i was not really serious about it because i taught it was not possible for there to exist a tuition free university but my friend then i should just give it a try since there was nothing to loose by trying and that was how i registered at UoPeople .I just finished my 2nd term at UoPeople and trust me its be absolutely amazing from the instructors to the students from different parts of the world to the beautiful and easy to move around learning environment . I do not regrit ever considering registering on this learning plartform at all and i can recommend this plartform to anyone at anytime. thanks a lot UoPeople am really grateful.

Re: University of the People: Tuition-Free, Accredited Online Degree Programs

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I can't word this in a non-snarky way, but it's a genuine question: Why do you believe that college can teach making subjective decisions?

Because moral philosophy and epistemology have been a thing for well over 4,000 years, and college could easily teach the basics.

Do you really think new college students absorb all that they hear in the entry-level classes? You're also operating under the assumption that all professors employed by a college are capable of effectively communicating the topic they're supposed to teach

Re: University of the People: Tuition-Free, Accredited Online Degree Programs

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The problem with plagiarism isn't best characterized as some sort of power struggle between teachers and students via bullshit assignments. The purpose of learning to write is to make yourself a formidable communicator. If you can independently analyze a new topic to learn something new and apply the results of those learnings towards a particular goal, you can be amazingly effective in everything you aim for. But if…

This is under the assumption that you see college is a program of self-betterment and not busy work for receiving a degree that says you can have a middle-class job. It feels like even the universities themselves see it as the latter these days.

To have a middle-class job, you need knowledge, not a degree. (Disclaimer: my son does not have a degree but has a pretty demanding middle-class engineering job.)

If you spend time in a university to just get a diploma and maybe some connections, you likely are wasting your time and significant money (remember, a student loan cannot be got rid of by a bankruptcy).

Re: University of the People: Tuition-Free, Accredited Online Degree Programs

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Are you willing to share more about what you're working on? It sounds interesting. One language app I tried for a few minutes was a VR app that put you, for example, on a train, and you had to have a relevant conversation. It was cool, not sure how effective because the GearVR I used at the time made me sick too quickly.

(Disclaimer: Most of what I say here has caveats and qualifications – hard to capture full nuance in a comment's space.) One of the distinguishing features of computers is easy simulation. Humans learn well by direct, tight, interaction with a system – poking at a thing to see how it works. Tight feedback loops are how we quickly build intuitions. Explorable Explanations [0] are a great extant example of what I mean,…

A knowledge map (or graph) is definitely something that should be used more intensively in course structure and instruction.

I remember very well reaching an understanding of a subject by different means than what the teacher expected(?) or was taught to expect. That path of learning was rejected (despite the result being the same) and accordingly graded as a failure. Such resistance to different learning paths, a "status quo" of how people should learn, and the tendency to try and fit everybody into well-defined boxed is frustrating and counter-productive.

Re: University of the People: Tuition-Free, Accredited Online Degree Programs

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This. The humanities are glossed over at best in public high schools across the United States. I don't know of one that requires a PHIL intro course of students. College is not vocational training (unless you're a law or medicine student), it's for learning how to think.

In theory, it would be good to have a part of our educational system which teaches people how to think. But what does that look like? I'd say that boils down to two things: logic and evidence. The vast majority of philosophy classes are absolutely garbage at teaching either of those things. Sure, in theory, logic is part of philosophy, but in any of the philosophy classes I've taken, we didn't talk about logic. The t…

I agree completely on your critique of profit motive at universities, and think it particularly applies to state-owned institutions. There is a false notion that profit is an automatic good, when that is clearly not the case.

There is more to critical thinking than formal logic, I'd argue. The classroom format of a typical humanities college course has a lot to do with this. For example I would argue that a person without any background in the classics and some basic theology is going to struggle to get much from Paradise Lost. It's dense, difficult, and you have to know some things going into it to pick up on the nuances. But 30 people discussing it collaboratively 2 or 3 times per week, with the expert professor's guidance when they stumble on certain parts makes for a lot of interesting discussion. Thirty different people will pick up on thirty different bits and pieces in every classroom session.

I'd guess that a big part of the reason there is such a glut of humanities graduates who can't find professorships is that people simply enjoy the classes enough to keep going all the way through graduate degrees. You get discussion and debate in those classes that you can't find anywhere else.

I don't think the above is true of many other disciplines of study, with so many degrees offered being pitched for purely profit motive as job training, as you mentioned above.

I can't do a better job of describing this than this professor who puts his public lectures on youtube for free..

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpO_X3dhaqULiItXg84O9...

Re: University of the People: Tuition-Free, Accredited Online Degree Programs

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For what it may be worth: two accredited online universities that have interestingly sustainable models and, I gather, good quality:

BYU Pathway Worldwide and associated programs. It requires a Church affiliation but not necessarily membership (I think). I think tuition is much lower especially if you do the year of English etc first, bachelors programs (like IT, business, others) are available, programs excellent, and is also suitable for those who need to first become qualified for entering a university (edit: i.e., learning English which is used in curriculum, and other basic skills), then provides that university. More info is in Wikipedia and I have gathered a bit of info including linking to a news article that explains it well I think, here: http://lukecall.net/e-9223372036854578440.html .

And: https://www.wgu.edu/ (also mentioned in wikipedia): state aid available from multiple states it seems (per wkp). Others have commented about it in this discussion, and praised it in other HN discussions, IIRC.

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