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Re: NPM Is Joining GitHub

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Post by dragonwriter »

manigandham wrote: post #410
IAmEveryone wrote: post #409

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ICE doesn't protect the border, that's United States Customs and Border Protection (CBP). ICE are the goons operating everywhere (i. e. not tied to the border) rounding up "suspected illegal immigrants". Because it isn't exactly hard to find illegal immigrants, and their charter allows them to control people without objective cause, ICE gets to arbitrarily decide whom to harass. It's the real-life version of the pere…

ICE is the enforcement arm for immigration , which handles people who cross the border. Obviously if there's a strong border then there's no problem in the first place. As for the rest of your comment, this is the far-left extremist position that I cited in my first post. There's no good faith discussion to be had here.

> ICE is the enforcement arm for immigration, which handles people who cross the border

No, it's the enforcement arm for immigration and customs, the former of which is people who are living in the US despite not being US citizens. Enforcement of people (and goods) crossing the border is the Border Patrol and it's parent organization Customs and Border Protection.

Re: NPM Is Joining GitHub

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Post by sverhagen »

mbesto wrote: post #253
K0nserv wrote: post #185

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It depends on what the alternative is. When NPM starts running out of money to run the service what would happen? More VC, but only to a point and the firms would be increasingly be influencing NPM to make money by any means(probably not good for anyone but the firms). Alternatively a cash strapped NPM fails to invest in security and availability of the service leading to widespread outages or worse a large scale sup…

> It depends on what the alternative is. Ruby Gems, PHP composer, PIP, etc. would all like a word with you.... https://rubygems.org/pages/sponsors https://www.python.org/psf/

Isn't it more that NPM specifically has had a bumpy ride, and people are seeing this acquisition as a sign of better times to come, and it not being a value judgment of other open source initiatives.

Re: NPM Is Joining GitHub

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Post by manigandham »

sneak wrote: post #438
manigandham wrote: post #337

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That's a subjective political opinion of a far-left vocal minority. Not everyone has an issue with ICE (a federal law-enforcement agency that stops criminals and saves lives) nor finds a problem with a company legally providing services to the government.

The fact that ICE has built concentration camps (as verified by scholars who study concentration camps) is a fact, not a subjective or political opinion. The fact that there are children in these camps, many being raped, some being tortured, is also a documented fact, not a subjective opinion. These are well-documented facts that have been widely reported on in the mass media. You can find links to specific articles…

Concentration camps are for political prisoners. These are not the same. And there are US citizens and children in jails and juvenile detention too, which is what happens when crimes are committed.

I'm a naturalized immigrant. I've been in far worse places than America. I suggest you visit CBP and ICE. Talk to the agents. Visit the border. See the shelters. View the damage done by criminals who prey on these people and find out how much the agents do to help them while risking their lives fighting cartels and traffickers.

Like I said, America is far softer with borders than other nations. Crossing illegally brings enforcement and penalties. I'm not sure why this is so controversial, or why protest against govt organizations is done by proxy of software companies.

Re: NPM Is Joining GitHub

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Post by [deleted] »

thiagocesar wrote: post #433
manigandham wrote: post #387

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You don't need Azure to use any part of .NET - and VSCode, Github, etc., stretch beyond both.

That’s not what was said either. They said that .NET and Azure, two separate things, are very well managed. OP did not imply any correlation between the two of them.

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Re: NPM Is Joining GitHub

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Post by throwaway78359 »

judge2020 wrote: post #358
manigandham wrote: post #329

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What's wrong with Microsoft's dev strategy? .NET continues to be the most powerful and productive platform that I've used. .NET Core was a great move and it's all coming together nicely now, and even creating innovations like Blazor.

I think the poster was saying that .NET has a dev strategy, but other projects don't. > Microsoft can’t even put coherent dev strategy outside of .NET on Azure

Exactly.

Re: NPM Is Joining GitHub

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Post by manigandham »

dragonwriter wrote: post #451
manigandham wrote: post #410

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ICE is the enforcement arm for immigration , which handles people who cross the border. Obviously if there's a strong border then there's no problem in the first place. As for the rest of your comment, this is the far-left extremist position that I cited in my first post. There's no good faith discussion to be had here.

> ICE is the enforcement arm for immigration, which handles people who cross the border No, it's the enforcement arm for immigration and customs, the former of which is people who are living in the US despite not being US citizens. Enforcement of people (and goods) crossing the border is the Border Patrol and it's parent organization Customs and Border Protection.

Sure, but the parent posts are discussing (illegal) immigration which is the jurisdiction of ICE.

There's not much controversy over the people who cross illegally but stay temporarily and close to the border. Those are just traffickers and cartels.

Re: NPM Is Joining GitHub

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Post by peglasaurus »

girvo wrote: post #425
marricks wrote: post #424

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I’m not sure how you made out Microsoft to be anything but a benevolent ruler here, “throw away for obvious reasons” seems like a weird thing to say

They’re likely not supposed to be commenting on things like this as an active employee of the company in question.

Freedom of speech isn’t freedom from consequences, as is often said.

Re: NPM Is Joining GitHub

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Post by peglasaurus »

dgb23 wrote: post #134
batmansmk wrote: post #7

VsCode, Typescript, Github, NPM. And Microsoft doesn't even have to maintain the main runtime, Google does. What a clever strategy!

To be honest I like this new Microsoft. VSCode is a really good tool, C# is amazingly performant and they don‘t talk quite the same BS lingo as some other big players. Also MS research produces some really good stuff.

These tools are worthwhile additions. Vscode is a important toolkit item for many. Just having it on multiple platforms is a useful common denominator that reduces friction.

Re: NPM Is Joining GitHub

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Post by nerdwaller »

K0nserv wrote: post #293
mbesto wrote: post #253

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> It depends on what the alternative is. Ruby Gems, PHP composer, PIP, etc. would all like a word with you.... https://rubygems.org/pages/sponsors https://www.python.org/psf/

That's a path but NPM already being a company with signficant VC investment would a transition to such a model workout with the existing stakeholders? Also NPM is quite a bit bigger than both the Ruby and Python library spaces.

> Also NPM is quite a bit bigger than both the Ruby and Python library spaces.

I don’t know, so I have to ask, what’s the metric here?

Re: NPM Is Joining GitHub

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Post by Ctd2xUvMAicg »

throwaway78359 wrote: post #232

Microsoftie here — throwaway for obvious reasons. Microsoft doesn’t do everything right but the GitHub acquisition has honestly gone better than I ever expected. Rather than forcing GitHub to adopt Microsoft centric policies, Microsoft has adopted more GitHub stuff, especially from a product POV. GitHub still runs as a separate company (different logins and health care and hiring systems) with its own policies and po…

Why, what happened to yarn?
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