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Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by myfonj »

_august wrote: post #444
gombosg wrote: post #426

I've been using Firefox for the last 10 or so years. (Used the "new Chrome-Opera" for a while but went back soon) These recent developments are awesome. As a frontend developer, I also find the devtools absolutely competitive with Chrome's. The default ad- and tracker blocking is nice, I only need to use uBblock Origin for Youtube (whitelisting only that), since Youtube became nearly unusable due to the massive amoun…

Another front-end dev here. I tried to switch back from Chrome to Firefox, and while I was mostly impressed (especially devtools), I had a few gripes: - Dragging tabs didn't immediately drag out a window like in Chrome - A crashing tabs still seemed to crash/severely slow down the browser - Sluggishness in window opening / first open.

> [gripe:] - Dragging tabs [in Firefox] didn't immediately drag out a window like in Chrome

Luckily (for me) this still holds and I see it as an advantage over Chrome; this pulling effect is amusing to look at (and I must admit that Chrome does great job when it comes to perceived speed and "snappiness" of it) but absolutely terrible feature when it comes to usability. For example it prevents transfer of tab between two full screen windows, making this task a multi steps chore. (Even for non-fullscreen windows it's quite complicated; I've summarized it some time ago in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19663744)

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by [deleted] »

tgv wrote: post #165
fauigerzigerk wrote: post #84

Here's my Firefox wishlist: - Open new windows more quickly. Firefox feels sluggish (on Mac) even though it isn't, simply because it opens new windows far more slowly than Safari or Chrome. - Use the platform native key store. I don't want my passwords stored unencrypted on disk. But I don't want to enter a separate master password either. I do want to use fingerprint/face unlock on mobile to reveal passwords. - Give…

> Open new windows more quickly. Windows open more quickly now than before. A few versions ago, it had become unbearably slow (I'm an FF user since Camino died), and I stuck to using tabs only, but 72 seems to have caught up again. I estimate that it's around 0.3s slower than Chrome on my machine. > Use the platform native key store. Amen to that.

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Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by floatboth »

stuartd wrote: post #362
Carpetsmoker wrote: post #205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> lobby for a legally binding do-not-track header. DNT is pretty dead, and IMHO was never a good idea in the first place. Opt-outing of invasive and unethical tracking is just weird. What about people who don't know about it? Or don't fully understand what it means? It's almost like the Hitchhiker's Guide : "Well, you should have visited the planning department in the disused lavatory with a sign 'beware of the leopa…

The ultimate irony of DNT was that trackers could use the header as browser fingerprinting data..

Well, it only adds one bit of information, that is probably highly correlated with everything else being unique as well :)

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by dao- »

saagarjha wrote: post #406
Caspy7 wrote: post #404

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 'switching to Firefox' isn't something anyone actually has to do. Just start using it for one thing or another and any complete change will happen naturally This is going to vary with different people. Have you heard the phrase "Default is destiny"? This is especially true for less technical people (the majority of web users). Personally I'm not going to dabble, rather keeping to the safe and familiar, so I have to…

Chrome isn't the default on a lot of platforms.

Google has deals with many OEM vendors for Windows laptops and such. Whether it's the platform default is meaningless in this context.

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by miohtama »

Caspy7 wrote: post #414
nojvek wrote: post #408

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would that be ?

Because it's already enabled on hardware where it's known to work well but disabled where it has issues.

Yeah, it is definitely not bug free and tabs crash more often. However I still feel performance improvement and happy to live on the edge.

MacBook Pro 2017.

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by floatingsmoke »

vardump wrote: post #378
floatingsmoke wrote: post #295

Still no pinch to zoom. No chance on macOS.

Just set "apz.allow_zooming" to true in about:config. Pinch zoom works for me on macOS at least, didn't try on Windows yet. Works smoothly, just like in Safari and Chrome. Perhaps there are still some minor bugs and they don't enable it by default?

Nice try. It works by pinching but double tap and smart zoom to cursor.

And if you zoom in somehow, you cannot pan over the page because Firefox act like you are seeing full screen and trying to go back or forward in browser history.

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by gombosg »

SmellyGeekBoy wrote: post #433
gombosg wrote: post #426

I've been using Firefox for the last 10 or so years. (Used the "new Chrome-Opera" for a while but went back soon) These recent developments are awesome. As a frontend developer, I also find the devtools absolutely competitive with Chrome's. The default ad- and tracker blocking is nice, I only need to use uBblock Origin for Youtube (whitelisting only that), since Youtube became nearly unusable due to the massive amoun…

> I only need to use uBblock Origin for Youtube (whitelisting only that), since Youtube became nearly unusable due to the massive amount of ads. Depends how much you're using it, but as it's pretty much become the primary source of entertainment in our household I decided the most practical and ethical option was to just pay for it.

Yeah... I'm doing the same for Deezer (paying for listening to streaming music) but I only use Youtube occasionally.

Got fed up when YT showed 2 ads every 20 minutes in the middle of a classical music concert. I'm not expecting it to be ad-free, but expecting it to be less intrusive/annoying.

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by wooger »

andreareina wrote: post #367
andrewkdinh wrote: post #364

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe you’re talking about metomic. Best cookie notice I’ve seen yet. https://metomic.io/

Click "No, Customize" and through to "Statistics". Exemplary example of how it should be done.

Just one "Nope" should be enough. Or just ignoring it and clicking elsehwhere should assume that's your answer and shut up about it forever.

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by aequitas »

zelly wrote: post #429

Firefox's killer feature was generating sync keys locally and letting you self-host a compatible sync host. Chrome generates the sync keys on server and has proprietary sync software. That's it. That's all it took for me to switch. I know FF eats almost double the CPU compared to Chrome. I know 1 out of every 10 webapps will just not work in it. That's fine. I will take the security and privacy over convenience. Just…

> Just buy a better CPU.

This gets a little hard when the device you want to run FF on is a old laptop that doesn't need replacing and where battery life is more important than raw speed.

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by amelius »

glandium wrote: post #416
amelius wrote: post #346

Password fields are broken in Ubuntu 18.04 (Gnome Flashback Metacity), when using Firefox's Sync feature, (and without add-ons). This was a problem in recent versions, and is still a problem in version 72.

Are you saying this is what happens with the Ubuntu package or with the Mozilla binary? If the former, it could be https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1601707

I'm using the Mozilla binary. And it's not a crash, but it appears to be a focus problem (password field loses and gets back focus when typing, randomly).
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