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Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by bhauer »

8draco8 wrote: post #70
Ecco wrote: post #12

I was so hoping for a constant bezel width. Unfortunately the top bezel is still a lot larger than the side ones. I know it's because of the camera, but that makes for an awkward looking device…

Can you elaborate on why constant bezel width is so important? Most devices (phones, tablets, TVs, laptops) don't have constant bezel width.

> Most devices (phones, tablets, TVs, laptops) don't have constant bezel width.

Some phones and tablets have varied bezel width because they are touch-screen devices that need to be held by their screens.

In my experience, most TVs and laptops have uniform bezel widths. Especially TVs since they are so commonly treated as furniture, and therefore receive a great deal of design attention. On laptops, an exception is often the bottom bezel, where you often will see some additional surface material.

I agree with GP that laptops should have uniform bezel widths to look their best. It's not a must-have, but a uniform narrow bezel is optimal for laptop aesthetics.

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by seraphsf »

Ambroos wrote: post #77

For others who might be wondering, this replaces the 15-inch MacBook Pro. There's a small increase in size (15 vs 16): - Thickness: 1.55cm to 1.62cm (+0.7mm, +4.5%) - Width: 34.93cm to 35.79cm (+0.86cm, +2.5%) - Depth: 24.07cm to 24.59cm (+0.52cm, +2.2%) - Weight: 1.83kg to 2.0kg (+170gr, +9.3%) The display alone is ~1.3cm wider (and ~0.7cm higher), so there was a small reduction in bezel sizes, allowing the screen t…

Note that the previous display was actually 15.4”... so the increase to 16” is less significant than the headlines imply.

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by rootusrootus »

Wheaties466 wrote: post #267
vesinisa wrote: post #76

Could @mods please editorialize the title. "The world's best pro notebook" is marketing speech and not a fact.

TIL there are mods here.

AFAIK, basically there are two: dang and sctb. That may have changed, but this topic is not routinely discussed and I have not heard otherwise. Cultivating HN seems to be their full time job.

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by themagician »

jasonsync wrote: post #265
pcr910303 wrote: post #99

OMG, I'm very depressed as a user who loves the butterfly mechanism. I hate the wobbly feeling that the scissor mechanism produces. Apple didn't need to return to the scissor mechanism, it should have reiterated the design. I'm very disappointed that Apple just gave up & used the safe way of regressing back. It feels like Apple is losing the spirit of doing things itself, whether other people dislikes it. Apple is mo…

The Butterfly mechanism was tainted by a number of design flaws that forced Apple to provide a soft recall: https://support.apple.com/keyboard-service-program-for-mac-n... I'm literally getting my new Macbook serviced today due to sticky butterfly keys.

All they really had to do was find a way to make the keys more easily removable. The butterfly mechanism is really nice when it works, but when a single key can stick and there is no easy way to clean / replace it so you have to replace the entire cop case which is insane.

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by theklr »

bxparks wrote: post #413
DennisP wrote: post #297

I wish it had one USB-A. I plug in a mechanical keyboard, and when a job provided the previous macbook pro, I managed to lose or break a dongle about once a month.

Yup, the lack of USB-A (and the removal of the ESC key) is the reason I stopped buying MacBooks after many enjoyable years of using the MBA11, 2 x MBA13, and the 2015 MBP13 (arguably the best laptop ever made). Every peripheral that I own is on USB-A. Adding USB-C is great, but why remove USB-A? I just don't get it.

Why remove the CD drive? Why remove the floppy disk? They did a cost benefit analysis and made that risk. There's usb-C to usb-A converters. It's not that big of a deal as it seems.

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by theklr »

trymas wrote: post #399
throwanem wrote: post #17

I'm astonished and pleased to see they walked back the two worst things about the original Touch Bar MBPs - the lack of a physical Escape key, and the full-size left and right arrow keys. The lack of physical function keys remains regrettable, and the Touch Bar is still no worthy substitute, but perhaps this is a sign that Apple is finally interested in listening to feedback from its long-term customer base, even if…

I wonder if the screen reflective coating is better too. AFAIK, since introduction of retina screens of MacBooks (2012) it's a matter of time that the reflective coating will start to peel off and will leave ugly blotches.

This seems highly anecdotal. I have a launch 2012 retina still with no peeling.

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by bsimpson »

Ambroos wrote: post #77

For others who might be wondering, this replaces the 15-inch MacBook Pro. There's a small increase in size (15 vs 16): - Thickness: 1.55cm to 1.62cm (+0.7mm, +4.5%) - Width: 34.93cm to 35.79cm (+0.86cm, +2.5%) - Depth: 24.07cm to 24.59cm (+0.52cm, +2.2%) - Weight: 1.83kg to 2.0kg (+170gr, +9.3%) The display alone is ~1.3cm wider (and ~0.7cm higher), so there was a small reduction in bezel sizes, allowing the screen t…

This new model appears to be just slightly smaller and lighter than the 2015 many of us still have. It's basically the same size as the 2015, but with more screen in the same frame.

https://support.apple.com/kb/sp719?locale=en_US

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by theklr »

insta_anon wrote: post #245
throwanem wrote: post #17

I'm astonished and pleased to see they walked back the two worst things about the original Touch Bar MBPs - the lack of a physical Escape key, and the full-size left and right arrow keys. The lack of physical function keys remains regrettable, and the Touch Bar is still no worthy substitute, but perhaps this is a sign that Apple is finally interested in listening to feedback from its long-term customer base, even if…

Agreed, as long as I am forced to use the TouchBar, it personally for me is not "the world’s best pro notebook".

Could there be more pros than you?
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