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Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Jul 24, 2019, 4:23 AM UTC

TenaciousValor wrote: post #446

gnode wrote: post #377

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War has often resulted in regime change or occupation, sometime even execution of defeated leadership, so no; war often affects the elite (in the end).

Short of receiving an act of aggression challenging the sovereign of your nation, sanctions are always preferable to war. Resource starvation occurs during wartime, but, in contrast to war, sanctions mean no lives are being lost and no property is being destroyed because of physical violence. The people of a nation are still put in a corner, but they don't have a gun to their head. It's something they can get out if,…

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Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by _ptgt » Wed, Jul 24, 2019, 6:18 AM UTC

goodcanadian wrote: post #274

_ptgt wrote: post #124

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>Not to get all political but I think it's pretty clear that the US is the only western country not liking Iran, and they use their influence to have the whole world obey US sanctions. You expecting OP to raise against their government? I say odds of succeeding are slimmer than storming Area 51. This isn't exactly true. The EU is opposed to Iran's aggressive policies in the region (e.g. in Yemen, Syria, and now Hormu…

It's also worth noting that the EU disproportionately benefits from oil purchases from Iran relative to US so they have their own political self-interests factoring into their decision. Oil is fungible. The EU only benefits disproportionately because the US refuses to do business with Iran.

Not exactly. There are varying costs to extracting and transporting oil depending on where it is sourced. It's estimated that American natural gas, for example, would be 20% more expensive than Russian natural gas through the Nordstream 2 pipeline -- even though natural gas is nominally fungible.

Furthermore, the US is net oil exporter in 2019 and Europe is notoriously dependent on imported oil due to lack of resources on the continent. Consequently, adding a large marginal foreign supplier has significantly different impacts on oil prices in the region.

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by kaveh_h » Wed, Jul 24, 2019, 8:35 AM UTC

eternalban wrote: post #381

kaveh_h wrote: post #121

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Your relatives are not entirely honest with you. Of course they might not be starving and people might have enough food, but they are having less access to medicines and other necessities.

I did not comment on medicine. So there is no "starvation". > "not entirely honest" You are possibly projecting your own family's character. Kindly refrain from discussing matters regarding which you have zero insight. Tashakor.

”And last I checked -- I have relatives in Iran -- no one is "starving".”

You basically shared anecdotal evidence from your relatives. Which means you’re cherry-picking and opening yourself up for critique of that comment.

Grow a thicker skin. Tashakor.

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by kaveh_h » Wed, Jul 24, 2019, 8:54 AM UTC

kaveh_h wrote: post #116

mattigames wrote: post #41

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Or... maybe developers should not play the games the Iran goverment want them to play and every effort should go towards throwing the current dictatorship not to stop using what they want us to stop using?

And play the game the US government wants them to play? US is creating the situation were enough conservative Iranian (their are enough) are going to support their government just because sanctions and muslim ban exists.

Some down voters, but no counter arguments?

So you all basically think sanctions are going to work and the hardliners are going to cave in and agree to a new deal and not try to crush dissent?

Have you seen state of Venezuela? US threatened to go in and supported an opposition. And the result is failure and real tragedy for the people. Now they are blaiming Cuba.

You don’t need a majority to create a revolution that succeds. You need an enemy which is lacking morale and the means. The Iranian regime supporters now have morale (US dropping out of deal, and allies which can’t stop US influence) and they obviously have weapons to crush the resistance which have none.

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by gdy » Wed, Jul 24, 2019, 9:02 AM UTC

stickfigure wrote: post #448

gdy wrote: post #439

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1. Why does this democracy has upgraded its weapons in this particular way? The old weapons were working fine for the purpose of MAD (retaliatory strike against cities), the new ones are fit for a surprise first strike. This democracy hasn't destroyed the world because it wants to live itself and MAD guaranteed that nobody wins a nuclear war. When it could use nuclear weapons without fear of retaliation, it happily u…

There are a couple problems with your view of the US: * Since the invention of the H-bomb, nuclear powers have had the ability to knock out all fixed silos in a first strike. You don't need accuracy with a 10MT bomb. As accuracy improves, warheads get smaller, but the MAD calculus doesn't change: You can't guarantee you'll take out all the submarine, mobile, and airborne weapons too. Accuracy doesn't change anything.…

* You are forgetting multiple things: reduction of the number of warheads, continuous enhancement of ABM systems by the US, this super-fuze upgrade giving enhanced anti-silo capability to submarine-based missiles which can reach targets in much shorter time, enhanced capability to track road-based launchers, overwhelming advantage in the number of fighter jets vs the number of Russian nuclear-capable bombers, disparity in the number of submarines. These things taken together in a couple of decades can end MAD.

* Giving the overwhelming advantage of the US and NATO in conventional weapons, the US doesn't need to actually commit a first strike to reap benefits of this capability. Nowadays the US and Russia are afraid to engage in a conventional conflict for fear of it escalating into nuclear war that would destroy both countries. After achieving first-strike capability, the US will know that Russia will be afraid to escalate by using tactical nukes against American carriers and troops. Ultimately, this will mean that the US will be able to do towards Russian allies or Russian expedionary forces whatever it feels like.

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by kaveh_h » Wed, Jul 24, 2019, 12:23 PM UTC

ssvss wrote: post #159

kaveh_h wrote: post #152

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So their exists an Iranian soldier who is a racists. How shocking, I bet you no American soldier or Israeli is like that...

That is just a minor point in my comment, may be it was just a racist soldier. The OP asked why US is targeting Iran, and the major point of the comment was that Iran is modern colonizer, who has sort of colonized 3 other countries. and waiting to do the same to Israel and Saudi. They are already lobbing rockets into Israel and Saudi. To compare this, the 1991 Iraq war was because Saddam overtly captured Kuwait and l…

Your points are not objective and judging Iran harsher than all other actors in the region.

First and foremost you conflate Hezbollah, Alewites and Iraqi shias and shias generally with Iranians. This is disponest and therefor your claim Iran colonizing and taken over oil Fields is not true. They are doing same thing as US and Saudi is doing for their allies in the region, supporting them.

Using your terms Saudis have colonized Bahrain and Yemen together with UAE. They have supported a military dictatorship in Sudan and also bad actors in Somalia. They have tried to ”colonize” Qatar but failed. Israel is basically an apartheid state that is destroying the life of all Palestinians.

Iran supporting other entities which are lobbying missiles into Israel and Saudi Arabia is perhaps true. Yet it was Saudis and to some extent US who supported Saddam during Iran-Iraq war. A war where Iraq fired lots of missiles on top of Iran and even used chemical weapons against Iran. You conviently forgot about this war.

No matter how justified US is maximum pressure won’t work if your are emboldening your enemy and treating your own allies like shit (see any European nations lining up to support US?).

The only country that sanctions worked against was South Africa, but in that case it was against an apartheid state that was highly impopular both Inside and outside the country.

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by sfarzy » Thu, Jul 25, 2019, 6:30 AM UTC

nixgeek wrote: post #2

Seems like it could be dangerous just to blog about these activities if you live in Iran?

Looks like his blog with GitHub pages have been restricted bu GitHub.

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by A2017U1 » Fri, Jul 26, 2019, 4:44 AM UTC

zPwoo wrote: post #337

computerex wrote: post #239

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Can you give some specific examples? What do you mean by "imitating their style"? What data would be used to "fingerprint" these groups?

I'm no "cyber security expert", but from what I can understand it can be something as simple as, what was mentioned above, tracking ip addresses to analyzing the processes leading up to and used in the attack. Whether that is how they approach the target, the tools used and/or any evidence left behind. When a large enough amount of attacks are performed by one group you gain some insight in how they work & approach p…

This is a great comment. Thanks.

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by A2017U1 » Fri, Jul 26, 2019, 9:56 AM UTC

stickfigure wrote: post #398

A2017U1 wrote: post #198

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Before stuxnet Iran had absolutely no cyber capabilities. In the years following it they have built some of the most formidable offensive teams on the planet. There's plenty of literature on this. Whoever created stuxnet created another monster too.

You imply that without Stuxnet, Iran would not have developed these capabilities. That seems improbable. At some point every "bad actor" is going to realize the possibilities of cyber warfare - even if just for ransomware revenue - and want in on the gold rush.

I'll bet everything I have that they wouldn't have anywhere near the capability they now have in $currentyear after stuxnet.

From what we know the US was doing everything possible to be restrained about this stuff, keep it on the downlow as is the way, and history has shown they were very much right. It's insane what's happened in the aftermath.

We created a monster. We really did. It's clear to anyone watching.

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by anticensor » Sat, Jul 27, 2019, 6:37 PM UTC

reilly3000 wrote: post #162

There are full data sets out there of stack overflow and Wikipedia, etc. After reading this I’d love to get that in the hands of more Iranians and others. It’s most likely not illegal to deliver the actual data as long as its not via the web.

Quarterly IPFS snapshots for Wikipedia and quarterly data dumps for SE are available.