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Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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Its getting weird when you have to fill that box in with pen and paper Marci Robin was buying a Fiat 500X from a West Palm Beach, Florida dealership, and was in the final stages of signing all the paperwork, when she was presented with a strange but simple question: was she a robot? This wasn’t online or anything, she was right there, in person, in front of the sales person, who wanted her to check a box, with a pen,…

I had to do this at CarMax on a recent purchase, it felt as silly as you think it is.

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Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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4chan was doing it specifically with a six letter racial slur that's unrepeatable.

Since you're so afraid to use the word 'nigger' here's a book by a Harvard law professor you should probably read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigger:_The_Strange_Career_of_...

I guessed correctly: the author belongs to the one racial group for whom it's politically correct to use the word.

Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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Its getting weird when you have to fill that box in with pen and paper Marci Robin was buying a Fiat 500X from a West Palm Beach, Florida dealership, and was in the final stages of signing all the paperwork, when she was presented with a strange but simple question: was she a robot? This wasn’t online or anything, she was right there, in person, in front of the sales person, who wanted her to check a box, with a pen,…

This would've made an awesome SciFi short story. The twist at the end is that she's lying.

http://www.elib.pl/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Lem.pdf

Definitely one of my favorite reads from my youth days...

Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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I never got this. Why not just run the browser in a VM, capture the screen and do a mouse click. I mean, why bother with all the headless nonsense which is an arms race. How could google possible ever defeat something that never ever even goes near the operating environment and just appears as a simple human mouse click?

I suppose you’d have to simulate the human movement of the mouse over to make it look like a human actually did it, but how hard can that be? Just train it with a few 100 Turks moving mouse pointers to click on links.

Though an interesting counter measure might be to inject cpu spikes and measure the impact in the mouse movements and the robot controlling it.

Must be a fun job, both sides.

Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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post #367

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It's either that or getting your entire forum spammed with hundreds of spam posts. I'm using that captcha on my website, and I can tell you, that one works 100% while the other ones don't.

But how many real people are you losing? You have no idea

Less than when my forum is full of spam posts and it takes me 1h daily to remove them.

Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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I see a lot of conjecture and theory and not a lot of evidence. AI models? Maybe for ad behavior but not for this. Google has you and your machine ID'ed and fingerprinted. That's the core of the authentication. The rest is subterfuge and obfuscation.

Is there any evidence that I'm wrong?

Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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The box has made browsing using TOR insufferable! It fusses and makes me click storefronts and traffic lights until I run out of patience and close out of whatever webpage I was trying to visit. I assume it has to do with a lack of Google cookies on the browser, essentially punishing me for trying to protect my privacy.

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I think that's very unlikely. There are over 100,000 new accounts created on Twitter every day so we would expect a large and frequent amount of bans if what you are saying were true. Furthermore most Twitter visitors don't have accounts so it would be pretty foolish to base their anomaly detection on a metric that most of their visitors fail.

It's actually well known that you'll get blocked by Twitter within the first 2 minutes of registering, whatever you'll do. They probably use it as a way to enforce their "soft" requirement of a phone number. After verifying that you have a working phone number, you'll get unblocked. Also, Twitter routinely renders their tweets unaccessible to non-logged-in users, due to rate limits on their api (which is used by thei…

Welp, it's a good thing these companies don't have a large amount of control over a lot of people's lives. And luckily their business practices are transparent and we all agree they're fair.

This is fine.

Re: Why can’t a bot tick the 'I'm not a robot' box?

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Yep. With the possibility of almost uniquely identifying us on the web through fingerprinting... Google, of all companies is in the perfect position to know that my web request was made by me... And therefore I'm not a robot. You can only conclude that recaptcha is a ml training exercise.

> With the possibility of almost uniquely identifying us on the web through fingerprinting... Google, of all companies is in the perfect position to know that my web request was made by me... And therefore I'm not a robot. The article explains that this is part of what reCAPTCHA does, e.g.: > Finally they combine all of this data with their knowledge of the person using the computer. Almost everyone on the Internet u…

> Finally they combine all of this data with their knowledge of the person using the computer. Almost everyone on the Internet uses something owned by Google – search, mail, ads, maps – and as you know Google Tracks All Of Your Things.

Human [n]: Entity that uses Google®-brand services.

— Google Dictionary, 2020 edition

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