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Announcing unlimited free private repos

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Re: Announcing unlimited free private repos

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Post by jtwaleson »

0x0 wrote: post #286
nickjj wrote: post #232

While I think this is a great move, don't forget that private repos also means no more free Travis CI. Gitlab CI however offers 2,000 build minutes a month with their integrated CI service. Even if your whole set up takes 10 minutes to build on CI, that's 200 builds a month which is plenty for an individual project that's on a private repo. In other words, I think Gitlab's free private repos + CI is still a better ch…

Also, the best part about gitlab CI - it's super easy to install gitlab-runner on your own and enjoy unlimited build minutes, even on the free plan. Plus you get to set up your buildbot environment just the way you like - even with access to LAN-only resources in case you need them.

And you can hook up a small autoscaling gitlab-runner which will spin up CI VMs on-demand. If you combine this with spot-instances at AWS you can scale very far on the free plan with minimal cloud spend.

Re: Announcing unlimited free private repos

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Post by philwelch »

madamelic wrote: post #365
_vuqm wrote: post #343

Earlier quoted context omitted.

depends on how the social network is monetized. There are no ads on Github. Unless github is selling user data to third parties, their monetization method is well known (paid enterprise features)

I feel like your entire comment could be ended with "...yet" I'm sure the screws will tighten on it. Unless Microsoft's entire plan is to run it forever, giving blank checks to GitHub, as a way to endear developers to Microsoft. Maybe.

Endearing developers to Microsoft is probably the entire strategy behind the Github acquisition in the first place.

Re: Announcing unlimited free private repos

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Post by yellowapple »

beagle3 wrote: post #250
moritzplassnig wrote: post #240

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When GitHub's financials got leaked in 2016, GitHub's personal accounts accounted for 12.5% of their revenue. GitHub Enterprise was 50%, their organization (= business) accounts were the remaining 37.5% [1]. It's fair to say that the personal accounts are irrelevant from a revenue perspective. [1] https://medium.com/@moritzplassnig/github-is-doing-much-bett... (disclaimer: I wrote the article but the data is by Bloom…

In what world is 12.5% of revenue "irrelevant"? The 37.5% business revenue is just 3 times as much (so almost as irrelevant), and Enterprise is only 4 times is much (again, almost as irrelevant). Unless .. all github revenue is irrelevant for Microsoft - which might be true, for all I know.

That might indeed be true. GitHub's value to Microsoft ain't the revenue; it's the users, the mindshare of whom Microsoft hopes to capture by luring them toward the Microsoft ecosystem (Windows, Office, Azure, SQL Server, etc.).

As a particular former Microsoft CEO put it: "[…] DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS […]". That strategy/desire hasn't exactly stopped, though it's certainly transformed quite a bit over the last couple decades (and Microsoft is finally actually getting somewhat effective there).

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Post by dhh2106 »

smartmic wrote: post #374
iambateman wrote: post #190

A lot of people are concerned about the “what if they make me the product since I’m no longer paying.” A few reasons I don’t think that will happen: - private, single contributor repos tend to be pretty small. it costs Github very little to service a single account. - Github is a growing social network for developers. Getting young engineers on the platform for free will pay off handsomely when they join a team and a…

It is no surprise but sound business reason that private repos will be available for free. For some background, check this HN classic: "Commoditize your complements" ( https://www.gwern.net/Complement#2 )

Interesting article.

Any literature/thoughts on when to commoditize complements rather than trying to vertically integrate? Private repos might be a complement to github's other business, but it doesn't naturally follow that they should commoditize it in all situations

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Post by yhoiseth »

sytse wrote: post #325
config_yml wrote: post #313

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I actually switched back to GitHub yesterday, because it‘s still better integrated in the overal tool landscape (eg Heroku). So I just pulled the trigger on a $7 subscription for private repos. And today the good news of free private repos arrived :) Edit: typo

I'm sorry to hear you left GitLab. We're working on making sure GitLab offers a great PaaS experience https://gitlab.com/groups/gitlab-org/-/epics/111 (I posted in there 3 days ago, hopefully indicating this is important to us)

This is great news. I'm looking forward to seeing what you come up with.

I'm not sure how relevant it is to you, but I hope you take some inspiration from https://platform.sh/ – it's the PaaS I've had the most luck with. While it isn't perfect, it's the closest thing I've found so far. Their "almost everything is in git" and instant environment cloning are fantastic features.

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Post by craftyguy »

mroche wrote: post #273

For those of you using GitLab, BitBucket, or , does this make you consider switching back at all? If so, why? It may be myopic, but the only major reason I can think of is visibility if you plan on publicizing the repo at some point. But you can achieve this by using GitHub as a mirror for your main repo on another platform (at least for GitLab, I’m not familiar with BitBucket). Edit: Personally, I use GitLab (both .…

> does this make you consider switching back at all

No. I'm old enough to remember the way Microsoft operated for most of their history, and do not trust them.

Re: Announcing unlimited free private repos

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Post by yellowapple »

throwaway237492 wrote: post #445
natfriedman wrote: post #430

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You won't see ads on GitHub.

If windows, a software for which I pay money when I buy a laptop can have ads, I am pretty sure at some point Github will also have ads. Its very very tempting to leave free money on the table. Only time will tell (Even though you are the CEO).

Except it ain't free money. Especially when you have viable alternatives like BitBucket and GitLab that are able to operate just fine without ads (well, at least without ads for non-Atlassian products in the former case), the cost is people jumping ship, and git makes that easy to do.

Microsoft would only stand to gain (short or long term) if it's been engaging in its traditional EEE strategy this whole time and is ready to pull the trigger on that final E. Even if that's the case, I can't see any real benefit; it'd just be a middle finger to developers.

Re: Announcing unlimited free private repos

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Post by fuddle »

snorremd wrote: post #225
fuddle wrote: post #49

Now I'm just waiting for GitHub CI. :)

Maybe Github Actions qualify? https://github.com/features/actions I must say it looks almost like Gitlab's pipeline system, but somewhat more flexible. If Github's free plan allows you to use pipelines I might just have to test it to compare.

Nice, It looks pretty good!
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