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Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Post by Sylos »

BoumTAC wrote: post #217

Honestly I want to move to firefox but there is still so many things wrong. It's a lot better but after trying to migrate for 30min I already find 2 basic missing features from chrome. The first one is the tab research feature. It available for many years in chrome I don't understand why it's still missing in firefox. I can't type "yo [hit tab] my video" to find a video on youtube. And the second feature missing is t…

> And the second feature missing is the search highlight in the scrollbar. It's a mandatory feature for my when searching on a long page (like this one for example) to search for "firefox" and find in the scrollbar everywhere it is.

I don't see how this is mandatory, you can just use the next/previous-result buttons (F3 / Shift-F3) to go to each result, but I guess it would make it much easier to establish some context as to where you are on the page, especially after you've jumped to the next search result.

Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Post by Sylos »

kanon wrote: post #57

EdgeHTML felt really great. It was the UX that made me hate Edge. As if they thought I was 65+ years old. Chrome's UX is much better imo, but based on rendering engine I wouldn't have cared much. I just hope they don't think it was their engine that made me (and probably others) switch.

> As if they thought I was 65+ years old.

I think, it was rather that they thought you were using a touchscreen...

Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Post by c0nducktr »

thiagowfx wrote: post #315
davidp wrote: post #19

Seriously, switch to Firefox. It's good again, and prioritizes privacy.[0] After Chrome's forced-sign-in debacle [1] I switched away from Chrome on all my platforms (Windows, Linux, Android) and haven't missed a thing. [0]: https://hacks.mozilla.org/2018/11/firefox-sync-privacy/ [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18055161

Firefox 3 was much better. No Pocket. No article/news recommendations. Panorama view. Firefox used to be my favorite until it started to get bloated. Prioritizes privacy? Then let me turn recommendations and Pocket permanently off.

Funny using Panorama as an example of when Firefox was better, and then criticizing it for Pocket, in context of bloat.

I'd bet Pocket is more useful to more people than Panorama was.

Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Post by danielor »

This is an interesting moment. The browser wars appear to be over and there is a victor! We have a new tech monopoly. We shall see how enduring it is. My sense is that in 20 years something new will be allowing us to browse through humanities info.

Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Post by efreak »

blattimwind wrote: post #366
tptacek wrote: post #293

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your sibling comment pointed out the same thing. Other than having 2 tabs in the same window with 2 different sets of cookies, which is something I never want (but you might), is there anything Firefox's feature gets me that Chrome's feature doesn't?

Firefox has also supported multiple profiles since forever.

Firefox hasn't supported running multiple profiles simultaneously forever, though I understand that it's possible now. That's actually party oh what got me on chrome originally--I could have my school profile open at the same time as my goofing-off profile and pretend to be researching while I played flash games, yet not showing any of that in my history.

Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Post by AgentME »

mixmastamyk wrote: post #407
tptacek wrote: post #291

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use Chrome, because security is my top concern. (Firefox has a good security team, but Chrome's is unmatched.)

With the exception of your personal stats.

It makes perfect sense if you're less worried about your internet usage privacy than about browser exploits installing malware onto your computer.

Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Post by daveFNbuck »

Someone1234 wrote: post #76
davidp wrote: post #19

Seriously, switch to Firefox. It's good again, and prioritizes privacy.[0] After Chrome's forced-sign-in debacle [1] I switched away from Chrome on all my platforms (Windows, Linux, Android) and haven't missed a thing. [0]: https://hacks.mozilla.org/2018/11/firefox-sync-privacy/ [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18055161

The best thing about Firefox is Mozilla's Multi-Account Container tabs[0]. Essentially it allows you to put different tabs into different light-weight profiles, with their own session, cookies, and state. That means if you want to log into Facebook but don't want Facebook following you online, just give Facebook its own container. Mozilla has anti-tracking already baked in, but Multi-Account Containers are a whole ot…

They're quite practical even if you don't care about tracking. I have different containers for my work and personal Google accounts and they make things much easier than relying on Google's support for multiple accounts.

They're also great for development. I have different containers for each user I use while working on logged-in flows. I can just go from tab to tab to test different user experiences or switch between users in a multi-user interaction.

Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Post by bayindirh »

tomnipotent wrote: post #436
pseudalopex wrote: post #377

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mozilla was developing a private Reading List feature that used Firefox Sync. They suddenly replaced it with Pocket, which sent users' bookmarks to a third party that engaged in data mining. (The acquisition came later.) Users suspected money was involved. Mozilla employees insisted that Pocket hadn't paid for the integration. Months later, it came out that there was a referral deal. Pocket was and is an extension. I…

> Pocket was and is an extension Pocket is not an extension - it's built in by default and cannot be removed (only disabled).

It's just a bundled extension inside Firefox. You can't uninstall bundled extensions, and you can bundle yours in your custom Firefox installation if you want.

Did a similar thing for a project, rolled out customer's own Firefox extensions (for office workflow) to employee desktops. Extensions were bundled because the employers sometimes uninstall them and freak out because they can't work anymore.

Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Post by travisgriggs »

As a side question, can anyone speak to what the organizational protocol of Mozilla looks like these days. Has that too changed in the last few years?

I liked Firefox, but when the drama around Brendan Eich blew up, I was disgusted and walked away. Have they gone back to just working together to build a good browser? Or does it still come with a “must think a certain way” subtext?

(FWIW, I want everyone to be able to code; I don’t care who/what/how you look like or sleep with or swear commitment to).

Re: Goodbye, EdgeHTML

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Post by AngeloAnolin »

I like FF stance especially with regards to privacy. It has significantly better as I am using it more and more on a personal level.

At work it's a different story though as our organization is heavily baked into Google's productivity suite (Gmail, Docs, Sheets, etc.) and of course, Google will always recommend using Chrome.

FF is far from perfect, and I see a lot of constructive comments here which, if taken by FF, can really improve a lot of aspect in their product.

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