The big picture here seems to be alluding people. Let's not get bogged down with Symantec's and logistics. It boils down to self preservation, people need to understand who/ what that " self" is.
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#452The big picture here seems to be alluding people. Let's not get bogged down with Symantec's and logistics. It boils down to self preservation, people need to understand who/ what that " self" is.
Eluding, not alluding, and semantics, not Symantec's.
(I'm sorry, not trying to be needlessly pedantic - I had to re-read to understand your meaning.)
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#453The big picture here seems to be alluding people. Let's not get bogged down with Symantec's and logistics. It boils down to self preservation, people need to understand who/ what that " self" is.
What do you mean by "people need to understand who/what the 'self' is"? Can you elaborate?
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The problem with this argument - I care about issue X, company C is known to disregard/exploit users with X and so I assume all employees of company C are complicit while I give a free pass to the users who remain ignorant and simply don't care no matter how many times these issues surface. And where do you stop? Are all doctors working for big pharma related to opioid crisis complicit? what about people working for…
Yes, they’re all complicit, to different degrees. Even the janitors and cooks are complicit when they support unethical enterprises. If any Facebook engineer suddenly acquired some moral sense, he should spend his time working to sabotage the company from within. Some have walked away; others have walked away and publicly spoken about facebook’s dubious culture. Now it’s time to see some sabotage.
I was with you until sabotage. It’s spending energy maliciously when as you say, there are plentiful options. Non aggression principle rules.
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#455The big picture here seems to be alluding people. Let's not get bogged down with Symantec's and logistics. It boils down to self preservation, people need to understand who/ what that " self" is.
I did mean indirect referencing and Linguistics.
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#456The big picture here seems to be alluding people. Let's not get bogged down with Symantec's and logistics. It boils down to self preservation, people need to understand who/ what that " self" is.
Please try to stay focused on the forest, not the tree's. With each generation my hope grows stronger.
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#457Earlier quoted context omitted.
You don't need his crazy stories, really. All you need to do is accept that Facebook isn't behaving exceptionally poorly, this is industry standard. Lo and behold - the entire sector is suddenly a cesspool of disrespect and money grabbing at the cost of your data, your privacy, anything they will be able to get away with. And they can get away with a lot, because you are not allowed to talk when you work anywhere. On…
》Facebook isn't behaving exceptionally poorly I think we are at an impasse. Most in the know do not share this opinion.
The behaviour is poor, yes. But if you view it among it's peers it's not at all poor, it's normal. That that normal is actually "exceptionally poor" might be true, but that's not really the point I was trying to make. On that I think we agree.
If you're implying that "most in the know" think FB is much worse than competitors or even other IT companies, we do indeed disagree. Sadly that is not something we can argue here, because if you are in the know you cannot share examples :)
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#458Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, they’re all complicit, to different degrees. Even the janitors and cooks are complicit when they support unethical enterprises. If any Facebook engineer suddenly acquired some moral sense, he should spend his time working to sabotage the company from within. Some have walked away; others have walked away and publicly spoken about facebook’s dubious culture. Now it’s time to see some sabotage.
I was with you until sabotage. It’s spending energy maliciously when as you say, there are plentiful options. Non aggression principle rules.
Whistleblowing would be a good middle-ground here. Also, I don't think sabotage would be as efficient since FB would just restore everything in an instant.
The problem with whistleblowing is that the consequences need to be more direct and actually leave a dent. As it is right now, FB can absorb pretty much any fines they're hit with.
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>Apple isn’t selling your phone number. Until they have bad iphone sales. Given Apple's less than stellar track record toward developers, employees, and customers, Apple will do things for Apple.
No dude, Apple has an excellent track record for privacy of customer data. They don't share anything with anyone else, intentionally. It's a walled-in garden. They have always, and continue to, view themselves as a hardware company. They make money on hardware sales. I mean look at their margins. Any such activity, if called out, may lower their hardware sales.
You must be new to Capitalism and Apple.
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The workaround is called GDPR. A shadow account is illegal with that.
The standard official Facebook response to this is that you do not own your "shadow profile" since it's a profile made out of data gathered from other people and companies, and thus they can not let you control it. In other words "it is not your data". I doubt that holds in court, but as mentioned in the article, there are people in the EU who for months have tried to get Facebook to provide the shadow profile data o…
>I doubt that holds in court
There's a zero chance that holds in court. If it were possible to have a negative chance it would have a negative chance of holding in court.
Data protection does not in any way relate to "ownership" of data.
If the data are personal data then you are forbidden from processing that data unless you have one of seven lawful bases enumerated in the GDPR, and where the data are sensitive then those bases are reduced further.