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- https://github.com/bitwarden/browser - https://github.com/bitwarden/cli
I saw all that but it looks like you've got to pay a monthly fee for full access for their cloud storage. Not sure its worth the hassle of migrating to in this case.
So, I'll join the chorus here by saying that I've picked up the subscription fee. I've been using their software daily for over three years. During that time, they have consistently improved their product and have been open about issues (as far as I am concerned). I was a little irked when I saw the subscription model. I was like, "hey, I paid for this." So, I looked up how much I paid in licenses by looking them up.…
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As time goes on, I've gotten less and less comfortable using proprietary software for critical tasks. If 1Password were open source, I'd actually be pretty happy to subscribe. But as it stands, I have no faith that the product won't change out from under me in the future, whether due to a pivot, an acquisition, or some other reason. The incentives align in favor of the business, not the customer. IMHO, subscriptions…
For me, something related: can I remove the data in a usable form? 1Password makes that easy, so like others here, I'm happy to pay them to perform the 'eternal vigilance' that secret-keeping entails.
So, I'll join the chorus here by saying that I've picked up the subscription fee. I've been using their software daily for over three years. During that time, they have consistently improved their product and have been open about issues (as far as I am concerned). I was a little irked when I saw the subscription model. I was like, "hey, I paid for this." So, I looked up how much I paid in licenses by looking them up.…
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At some point you have to value people. The 1Password folks have never let me down, and have been very honest, so I trust them. The product has done nothing but improve over the years for me, increasing in value and ease of use. And then with how often LastPass has had security breaches, it was a no brainer for me to leave LastPass years ago, and I don't regret it.
Shifty Jelly has never let me down either, but they got acquired by NPR. Neither has Q Branch, but they ran out of money and had to shut down. Business for indies isn't predictable. Is AgileBits going to be around in 10 years? I hope so, but I think it's far more likely that they'll be swallowed up by some other company, at best. After getting burned by this over and over again, I just think it's more sensible to sti…
Of all the entities they could be acquired by, I think NPR is the least offensive of all. And they've stated the intent is not to change how PocketCasts works. The other partners are WNYC, WBEZ, and PRX (helmed by Ira Glass). These are all major publishers of podcasts who have a vested interest in keeping PocketCasts a good app, and growing it. I think this is a bad example.
> Neither has Q Branch, but they ran out of money and had to shut down.
They would still be around if they had subscription revenue. Guess who has subscription revenue?
> Is AgileBits going to be around in 10 years?
They started 12 years ago. If you asked 12 years ago if they would still be around in 10 years, the answer would be yes.
> After getting burned by this over and over again, I just think it's more sensible to stick to OSS options that will probably exist in some compilable state even in the distant future.
Well, don't go LastPass if you want OSS.
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I agree. I try and use solutions that have open source formats, and are preferably open source. I have made an exception for 1Password, as it is so good. I hate subscription for software, unless there is a clear benefit. In this case, I don't see the benefit.
While our code is not, our vault formats are open. :) Ben Woodruff AgileBits
I'm not sure how the subscription model makes sense for a password manager. In general, I'm not a fan of the subscription model. I hate the trend towards subscription. I can imagine a day, when I pay $5 a month for a password manager, $5 a month for office, $5 for slack, $5 for a to do manager, $5 fr a mail product, $10 for an internet browser, and after all that having no money for anything else.
Speaking strictly in terms of money... How much would you pay for a license? $65? So what does that work out to if we release an upgrade every 2 - 2.5 years? About $30 / yr, right? That is about what a subscription costs as well, but the subscription includes access to the apps on all platforms, as well as other features not available with a license. For most people, especially 1Password Families customers, the subsc…
I never liked 1pass. I don't like the fact that you have to install a desktop app to use the browser extension. Also the UI is a bit annoying and sometimes it feels like it just gets in my way. The UX for multiple vaults is not so obvious at times and you don't realize you are only searching one vault instead of everything. Copying and sharing between vaults is also annoying. I really don't see what 1pass does better…
Good news! With 1Password X you can use it without installing the desktop app: https://blog.agilebits.com/2017/11/13/1password-x-a-look-at-...
So, I'll join the chorus here by saying that I've picked up the subscription fee. I've been using their software daily for over three years. During that time, they have consistently improved their product and have been open about issues (as far as I am concerned). I was a little irked when I saw the subscription model. I was like, "hey, I paid for this." So, I looked up how much I paid in licenses by looking them up.…
As time goes on, I've gotten less and less comfortable using proprietary software for critical tasks. If 1Password were open source, I'd actually be pretty happy to subscribe. But as it stands, I have no faith that the product won't change out from under me in the future, whether due to a pivot, an acquisition, or some other reason. The incentives align in favor of the business, not the customer. IMHO, subscriptions…
I use and love 1Password, but there's no way I'm switching to the subscription model. When my version stops working (either through incompatibility or serious security flaw), I'll begrudgingly find something else to use.
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For something like a password manager, the most compelling updates are security fixes, but there are several problems with charging for these: - It's unreasonable to expect people to pay the full price for minor security fixes that still need to go out - Because security upgrades are invisible to the user, it may be harder for the customer to see their value v. new features - The timeline of when security updates nee…
> - It's unreasonable to expect people to pay the full price for minor security fixes that still need to go out The ideal model for locally-run software, in my opinion, is to sell perpetual licenses to each major version for a one-time cost and promise security and maintenance updates for a certain period. New features can go into new major versions that users have to pay for (sometimes with discounted upgrade pricin…
It's only become a big thing after iOS and it's lack-of-a-filesystem and lack of inter-app data flows locked users out of their own devices.
Quite often I don't want many of the "new features". For me, bug fixes and security fixes are the main thing, followed by compatibility updates. I'm quite happy to pay for the latter when it was me that caused the issue by updating my OS/hardware in the first place. I'd quite like some amount of the former to be included in the original cost.