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I've spent the last two years building a new email client

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Re: I've spent the last two years building a new email client

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Post by kbenson »

salimmadjd wrote: post #370

I put my name on the waitlist, but instantly lost interest and confidence by: “Jump forward 5 steps in the line for every person you invite and get beta access sooner.” Why? If the product is that good I’ll evangelize it. This is a desktop application, so I don’t see a big boost from a network effect. All this does makes me wonder if the product is more about building hype than value

> Jump forward 5 steps in the line for every person you invite and get beta access sooner.

So what you're saying is that Viktor Hn just shot to the front of the line? Well played, Viktor.

Edit: Actually, based on the invite code, it's likely a specific code for HN. The Developer's name appears to be Viktor Jansson, I just assumed Hn was a last name. :)

Re: I've spent the last two years building a new email client

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Post by lisper »

untog wrote: post #435
kemiller wrote: post #417

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are not alone in this attitude, so don't take this personally, but I'm going to reply to you because you're the top comment. This is an incredibly destructive point of view. Promotion is essential to any software project, even open source, and in the vast majority of cases, word of mouth is not enough. This is an ethical, up-front, straightforward ask that costs you and anyone you might contact very little and is…

But what am I endorsing? I haven't tried the product myself yet. It's not unethical, but it's also simply not something I'm prepared to do - I will not recommend something to anyone without having been able to evaluate it myself first.

This.

In a world where publishing is essentially free, reputation is an extremely valuable commodity. The ask here is not trivial.

Re: I've spent the last two years building a new email client

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Post by majewsky »

RussianCow wrote: post #391
ekianjo wrote: post #325

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I think the point is that it's better to have something using the native widgets of your OS if possible. It carries much less footprint and it integrates with your OS much more nicely in the end. Webapps running in Electron is just becoming too commonplace.

That also means building a separate UI for every supported OS, which isn't usually feasible for a single developer.

https://qt.io

Re: I've spent the last two years building a new email client

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Post by jsjohnst »

chrismorgan wrote: post #343
jsjohnst wrote: post #225

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> Gmail in Firefox uses 200MB or a bit more, while FastMail uses around 10MB. Yes, but that’s not a fair apples to apples comparison with his 300mb number. Your looking at the memory used for that tab, not the shared memory used by the browser across tabs. Open Firefox with no sites open and check your baseline memory usage. Add that to the numbers above for a direct comparison.

I sought only to compare Gmail with FastMail, to indicate that Gmail is a poor baseline for memory comparisons.

Fair point, I agree there!

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Post by gascan »

dhruvb14 wrote: post #406

I find it crazy that everyone is harping on Electron instead of the cool features that this clearly has that most clients do not. Demo looked pretty polished dude. Don't let the typical HN crowd rain on your parade. The fact that you posted an actual product out to the public is more than most can say. Also: If you can't spare Max 300MB ram and you are complaining on HN wtf computer do you use?

MS Outlook, the heavyweight in the ring with every conceivable feature, has been running on my machine for days and is currently using 168MB.

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Post by BuildTheRobots »

muszc-master wrote: post #374
BuildTheRobots wrote: post #368

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Electron? The obvious snarky comment has to then be "oh and it should manage to be slower than Thunderbird out of the box, too!" I hope he's had better luck integrating spell check than the RamBox devs have ;) edit: yes, I would love to test it and provide numbers rather than just snark - I just have to wait for the ~5,000 people ahead of me in the queue to have their software pressed to disk and posted to them befor…

Haha "pressed to disk and posted" that was a fun remark :)

I'm baffled as to why I have to queue for something that's neither a physical product nor a service platform. Doubly so when the link posted seems to just bump someone else up the queue.

As a hacker news link it does strike me as a form of clickbait (and it honestly winds me up); "Hey HN! come look at this thing I've built that I'm not letting you look at!"

Re: I've spent the last two years building a new email client

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Post by vanous »

yaantc wrote: post #183

Thanks for your interest in local email clients, more choice there is welcome! In the description it is said one can file email with a key, by associating folders to keys. Keyboard operation is very important to me. However direct key/folder association doesn't scale to a large number of folders. Have you considered a feature like the "Nostalgy" extension for Thunderbird? [1] With Nostalgy one type "s" to file/save a…

Claws mail had this by default. Thunderbird fortunately via the Nostalgy extension. It's been a lifesaver since claws mail never implemented HTML mail, forcing me to move to Thunderbird for 21st century text formatting ten years ago.

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Post by jrochkind1 »

gascan wrote: post #455
dhruvb14 wrote: post #406

I find it crazy that everyone is harping on Electron instead of the cool features that this clearly has that most clients do not. Demo looked pretty polished dude. Don't let the typical HN crowd rain on your parade. The fact that you posted an actual product out to the public is more than most can say. Also: If you can't spare Max 300MB ram and you are complaining on HN wtf computer do you use?

MS Outlook, the heavyweight in the ring with every conceivable feature, has been running on my machine for days and is currently using 168MB.

every conceivable feature, a UI that leaves me with no idea how to use any of them.

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Post by nhooyr »

muszc-master wrote: post #69
yani wrote: post #60

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Did someone review your code? 2 years working on your own sounds like a caveman.

Yes, I was basically a caveman, and I'm currently looking for more developers

Haha, that's awesome man!
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