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Re: New Research on How Ride-Hailing Impacts Travel Behavior

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Post by kaybe » Tue, Oct 17, 2017, 7:04 PM UTC

stuaxo wrote: post #186

tradersam wrote: post #136

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This doesn't mean anything. Although many more die from automobile crashes doesn't make using public transportation in some major cities inherently dangerous or unpleasant - even unhealthy.

Being on a busy road surrounded by cars all burning petrol is not exactly a healthy place to be either. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-35504768

And let me tell you this, we see the highest amount of NO2 pollution in traffic in the inside of cars. A good filter may help you, but many many cars don't have them.

Re: New Research on How Ride-Hailing Impacts Travel Behavior

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Post by _Tev » Wed, Oct 18, 2017, 7:16 AM UTC

richk449 wrote: post #268

smsm42 wrote: post #101

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This is a basic contradiction which I am not sure is solvable. If the stops are too far away, you (or somebody for whom walking is harder, like older people, less physically fit people, etc.) won't be able to use it. If stops are too close, getting through them takes a lot of time. I know there is a body of work that tries to find optimal setup for such cases, but I'm not sure it's possible to make everybody happy he…

> This is a basic contradiction which I am not sure is solvable. Why do people say things like this? Have you ever been to a major European city? Most have well designed public transit systems that are much more convenient than driving. They usually manage this through a combination of local subways, regional trains to go into and out of the city core, and high speed rail to travel between cities. Chinese and Indian…

To be fair, European cities are often terrible for driving, because the road system is poorly designed. And expanding public transport takes precedence.

That is also technically achievable in US, but much less politically achievable.

Re: New Research on How Ride-Hailing Impacts Travel Behavior

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Post by ProAm » Wed, Oct 18, 2017, 2:35 PM UTC

jasonbarone wrote: post #448

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It's still a grab for market share before the race to the bottom is finished and hopefully they've iterated to autonomous drivers, until then both companies are loss leaders with no profit visible on the horizon.

Sorry, sounds like you have a lot of inaccurate information you're basing that off of.

As do you.

Re: New Research on How Ride-Hailing Impacts Travel Behavior

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Post by jasonbarone » Wed, Oct 18, 2017, 10:05 PM UTC

ProAm wrote: post #453

jasonbarone wrote: post #448

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Sorry, sounds like you have a lot of inaccurate information you're basing that off of.

As do you.

My guess is you don’t work for either company, right?

Re: New Research on How Ride-Hailing Impacts Travel Behavior

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Post by ryan_lane » Wed, Oct 18, 2017, 11:33 PM UTC

cozzyd wrote: post #309

ryan_lane wrote: post #288

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The buses have cameras, and drivers get ticketed for it (at ~$250 per ticket). Drivers avoid pulling over in bus lanes unless they are really sure no bus is coming.

Where is this? If some cities have taken this step, that's great.

San Francisco does this.

Re: New Research on How Ride-Hailing Impacts Travel Behavior

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Post by racer-v » Thu, Oct 19, 2017, 7:53 PM UTC

api wrote: post #365

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They don't ride the bus because it's too slow, unreliable or unavailable. Yes - Uber showed up the inadequacy of public transit in the US just as much as they disrupted the taxi industry. Transit seems designed only for consumers who can't afford any other option. If public services want people to choose to ride the bus over taking a car, they need to substantially increase the quality of the riding experience.

Part of the issue with buses is the maps. Trains usually have nice schematic style maps but there seems to be a law mandating that bus maps be illegible tangles of purple lines with little hard to read numbers and a table of what those numbers mean on a different page.

Personally I think the biggest problem with bus maps is that when you get on a bus, you can't find one. The inside is plastered with advertisements and "public service announcements" telling you to go to the opera and not drink soda. Instead if could look at the wall (or grab a pamphlet) and see where I need to get off for my transfer, that would already be a huge improvement.

Re: New Research on How Ride-Hailing Impacts Travel Behavior

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Post by wtetzner » Fri, Oct 20, 2017, 7:33 PM UTC

romanovcode wrote: post #118

holydude wrote: post #74

Sorry i get less sick when i commute by car hence i refuse to spend time with other people using buses/trams/subway.

Maybe you should stop touching your face often and wash your hands properly.

There are plenty of pathogens that are airborne.

Re: New Research on How Ride-Hailing Impacts Travel Behavior

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Post by avani » Sat, Oct 21, 2017, 5:28 AM UTC

ori_b wrote: post #398

avani wrote: post #332

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Those act like they're doing you a favor. "Our service will show up in an hour window if you call a day in advance, and you'd better be grateful, lesser human" I really fucking hate seperate but "equal" solutions for the disabled, and am grateful as hell I can afford to lyft everywhere I want to go.

You are still welcome to pay full price for taxi service.

I have waited in the rain for a taxi to stop for me in Manhattan for 20min before a nearby white guy saw me and hailed one for me (and didn't let the bastard leave when he saw me). Accountability is awesome.