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Re: Android Oreo

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I would really like to see Google take Oreo as an opportunity to set an example and push the pixel 2 with something like 10 years of support. I am not holding my breath though

or atleast ~4 years like iOS devices get.

iPhones now seem to be supported for 5 years now:

- iPhone 4s was supported from iOS 5 to 9.

- iPhone 5 receives iOS 10 updates, but will be out for 11, so iOS 6 to iOS 10.

- iPhone 5s will receive iOS 11. That makes iOS 7 to 11.

Re: Android Oreo

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post #108

The most interesting part is the way they are planning on tackling fragmentation in O onwards with Project Treble [0] If your device ships with O it should be running an immutable semantically versioned HAL. In essence you should be able to be able to flash AOSP on every new device. No matter what the vendor does. Edit: I can see it now, in the technical specs of each device you will see a list of HAL Versions. The n…

Android have been promising to finally tackle fragmentation in every release since KitKat. It seems people have a very short memory.

And they have been, gradually. Treble is a relatively big step, comparatively, but it's not like it's the first thing they've done.

There's a reason that "new emoji" is a headline feature now, a lot of the system has been pulled out and is distributed seperately to the OS now so it doesn't have to go through the vendor's QA cycle.

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post #424

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"WiFi Assistant Auto-connects you to high quality open WiFi and secures your connection with a VPN back to Google." Let's hope the VPN can be set to non-Google too, or it's optional or opt-out feature.

You can already have an always-on third party VPN that has nothing to do with Google. This is just a feature that was on some phones that's rolled out to the base OS now. It's opt in AFAICR, there's a prompt to enable it when you first boot the phone.

It's not when you first boot, it's when you first connect to an unsecured public wifi network. the opt-in is per-network, not just a single opt-in.

and it's not rolled into the base OS either, it's part of "google connectivity services" which is distributed separately.

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post #426

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Actually since Google is still allowing customizations, it will hardly change anything.

Actually, this is not an allowed customization.

Then spend one hour of your life listening to ADB Podcast, where Android team explicitly states that, saying that they don't want to encumber the work of them creating unique experiences.

http://androidbackstage.blogspot.de/2017/08/episode-75-proje...

Re: Android Oreo

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Has Google ever released a report on how much time it takes an average flagship device to get the latest android version? Even if you've paid $$$$ in getting Samsung Galaxy S8 just recently, you're not going to get Android O tomorrow morning. But that's definitely the case with iOS. That makes a huge difference in the world where Software updates play a huge role in performance and functionality than hardware update…

When I used to have iPhones, every software update degraded performance, until eventually, an update would make the phone so unbearable to use you had to buy a new one.

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post #168

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In Germany there are quite a few stores still selling budget Android 4.4 and 5.1 devices, which people keep on buying.

Same is in Bulgaria. And when you ask them "Hey actual version is 7.0. Why you use outdated OS with vulnerability? How you buy that devices?" They told "I have seen 7.0 there was nothing new." But no one want to get computer with Windows 95 (or 98) anymore. Just Android 4.4 is "OK".

> But no one want to get computer with Windows 95 (or 98) anymore. Just Android 4.4 is "OK".

They should do a yearly release (eg. Android 2018). Then at the store when they display phones, they'd have to write "Android 2013" instead of "Android 4.4 KitKat."

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In Germany there are quite a few stores still selling budget Android 4.4 and 5.1 devices, which people keep on buying.

It seems people have made their choice they don't care. If they cared about updates they wouldn't be buying Android.

Some of them do care, but with an average salary of 500 euros or less, they have better things to do with the money than spending on iPhones.

The only viable alternative was Windows Phone, but that is gone now.

Re: Android Oreo

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Project Treble is the most important thing in this release >The biggest change to the foundations of Android to date: a modular architecture that makes it easier and faster for hardware makers to deliver Android updates. With any luck, this will end the huge security/update problem Android has. Right now an update is dependent on the chip manufacturer's drivers, then the OEM adding them to the ROM with their custom "…

Every time I seriously consider the Android platform, I hear about this kind of shortcoming and I'm immediately turned off. I want to buy a phone, not a carrier. This fragmentation per device/carrier is killing this amazing platform. They need to lock it down Apple style (at least for phones).

Re: Android Oreo

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Not saying that everything else is bad, but one thing that strikes me is how much they have run out of interesting things now that they had to use fillers[1] like: Tooltips Support for tooltips (small popup windows with descriptive text) for views and menu items. Normally, this would be relegated to a git changelog in the support library. But this is on the global marketing landing page. I like to imagine a fictional…

To be fair, I have an iPhone and I'm still waiting for the "remotely sane text selection" feature to ship. Just in case you think this is hyperbole: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhWz7rMj56Y

So it's not just me? I thought I must be doing something wrong between all these people talking about using their iPads as their main work machines and then text selection just doesn't work for me most of the time.

I really wonder what's going on here.

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