I believe the big win here is that ESPN currently pays a lot of money for broadcast rights of various major league and college sports; those same leagues are paying BAMTech for end-to-end digital "over-the-top" streaming services. Pretty sure this is a sweet reversal on Disney/ESPN's part to own their digital asset management and content delivery systems and even sell them back to sports leagues.
Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content
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Re: Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content
#452If every studio thinks I'm going to pay them $10+ a month to stream their content, they are going to be very mistaken. I can't imagine that a lot of people want to spend the collective hundreds of dollars to sign up for all the streaming services. It's almost asking to drive people to torrents. Now, if Disney does something like $30/year or something really affordable - sure. I might do that on a whim. I guess it's a…
Agreed. I only pay for netflix and HBO (and amazon, but that's a bonus for paying for prime). HBO doesn't feel like "extra" because it's always been an optional add-on that costs more. First all the "major" studios will split and start charing $10/month. Then adds will start creeping back in. Before you know it everyone will be paying for an ad-hoc cable subscription. I think a better option would be to do what Amazo…
>I think a better option would be to do what Amazon is doing for HBO - offer a small portion of the studio (in this case Disney) included with the platform (Netflix) with the option to pay additional fees for the entire catalog.
Just a heads up - HBO is pulling their shows from Amazon in mid-2018[1]. They essentially view it as competition with HBO Now.
[1]http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/hbo-amazon-shows-leaving-str...
Re: Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content
#453This feels like the balkanization of the content industry. The same thing we have seen so many times before in other industries.
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#454Earlier quoted context omitted.
I feel similarly. The success of HBO Now has been a challenge because it holds out the hope that if you are "good enough" you too can get $10 - $15 a month per subscriber. This is easily 10x the revenue share from a cable bundle deal according to NAB publications. But does anyone think I'll pay $10 per month per 'network' for entertainment? It would rapidly cost more than cable or satellite. What I find curious is ho…
>The success of HBO Now has been a challenge because it holds out the hope that if you are "good enough" you too can get $10 - $15 a month per subscriber. it'll be interesting to see how this changes when the Game of Thrones ends.
HBO is in an interesting place. I actually did sign up just to watch Game of Thrones, and also to finally watch Westworld and maybe they're betting that they have enough for people to watch to actually continue their subscriptions. I mean, I decided to keep the service for about 3 or 4 months including the 2 that it'll take for Game of Thrones to finish up, but there's not denying that HBO actually does have quite a catalog.
That said, after 4 months, I doubt there will be much to interest me anymore, and even if there were, I could always just watch it next year when the next season of Game of Thrones comes out.
That said, if they offered $60/year, I would probably keep it around for a few years rather than paying between $20-$40 once a year.
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#455Maybe when I am 60, 70 or 80 the film industry will get their shi* together and finally agree on a solution that has long been found in the music business. For a truly complete platform, I would FOR SURE pay more than the 10$ a month for Netflix. 20, maybe 30! But then I want it ALL. All films they have in storage. I mean, it is 2017 and there are a lot of films I can't find on Netflix, Amazon Prime or, when I am in…
Sure, it's not as convenient as instant streaming, but the Netflix DVD shipping catalog is unparalleled. Every old movie you can think of plus new releases as soon as they release on DVD. Well worth what I pay since I'm patient enough to wait a couple days for the disk. Plus, if you pay a little extra for the blu-ray service the quality is way better than streaming "HD".
Re: Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content
#456If every studio thinks I'm going to pay them $10+ a month to stream their content, they are going to be very mistaken. I can't imagine that a lot of people want to spend the collective hundreds of dollars to sign up for all the streaming services. It's almost asking to drive people to torrents. Now, if Disney does something like $30/year or something really affordable - sure. I might do that on a whim. I guess it's a…
There are endless free programming, math, and other educational videos on YouTube. It just requires a small change in one's perspective on what is "entertainment". :)
Re: Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content
#457If every studio thinks I'm going to pay them $10+ a month to stream their content, they are going to be very mistaken. I can't imagine that a lot of people want to spend the collective hundreds of dollars to sign up for all the streaming services. It's almost asking to drive people to torrents. Now, if Disney does something like $30/year or something really affordable - sure. I might do that on a whim. I guess it's a…
They all need to figure out how to interoperate. It's not just all the services it's all the devices that can only connect to 3 out of the 5 services
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#458Earlier quoted context omitted.
So then your issue isn't the cost, and if someone came with an app that would "merge" all service into a single app where you can stream for all of them from a single place, you'd be happy? I don't think that's what others are complaining about though. Price was definitely the issue of the top commenter as they mention 10$/month and 30$/year. But it makes no sense because back in the cable days, people paid 50-100$ i…
Where do you pay $5 for coffee? I think you are getting ripped off.
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#459Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's a la carte because for decades you had to buy bundles of schlock from your cable company to get the one thing you wanted (typically ESPN). Presumably you want finer-grained a la carte, like individual shows and movies. You can get that today via iTunes but it is insanely expensive, and it doesn't really make economic sense because not enough consumers watch little enough TV for that to make sense, therefore the…
When you say "market forces", it is important to understand we are operating within the confines of the completely arbitrary market dictated by copyright law. The natural market for "intellectual goods" like music, movies, and TV is very weak (which is why copyright was created in the first place). Cable companies and centralized distributors are the natural conclusion of our copyright mechanisms. Online video has al…
Yes, I understand that. I spent a decade of my life building a startup in this space. If you have an angle on how to change copyright law then I'm all ears.
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#460Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sure, we've had access to distributed internet for the whole life of the network and people have chosen over and over to use centralized, convenient systems. That's not going to change for TV.
Well, it already happened as I said, except for pirated content.
Right, so if people want the convenience, they are going to have to get off their wallets. Broadcast was so cheap because we had central distributions with set times and they just shot it out there and you could watch if you want.
I'd rather providers compete on content and service so I can drop people who shove commercials in my face.
People have spent years complaining about all the channels and nothing to watch and this trend starts to reverse that because the providers are going to have to compete in content.