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Re: I'm a creep. I'm sorry

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Pure PR, if he is really sorry, he should resign from all positions with "power" over other human beings...

If he were truly sorry he would retreat to a mountain lair to live out the rest of his days as a monastic hermit. Clearly the fact that he still has a keyboard to type on proves his insincerity. /s

A 500 Startups partner just quit, saying leadership was untruthful about the Dave McClure situation

http://www.businessinsider.com/500-startups-partner-quits-ci...

Re: I'm a creep. I'm sorry

#452
post #208

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It sounds like people are underestimating the pervasive lonileness that even successful young males experience in tech. And again this comes up every single time. Just because someone is lonely didn't mean they're entitled to sexually harass someone else. Nor does being horny justify it. Nor does being angry justify violence. Similarly the fact they have to now choose between throwing away financial opportunity or…

>Similarly the fact they have to now choose between throwing away financial opportunity or acquiesce to this harassment And what of the situation in which women continue to associate with their harassers? Do they truely have no liability? Why is it impossible to consider the possibility of some women using sex to get ahead? Why does this have to be such an absurdly one sided topic? And yes, being lonely to the point…

> Do they truely have no liability?

Liability in being the victim of harassment?

> Why is it impossible to consider the possibility of some women using sex to get ahead?

It's not impossible to consider this, but this isn't what is being discussed.

> and continued association is not only a mixed message,

And again you keep missing the point. Continued associated is a result of a business relationship. That's exactly the point. By continuing a professional relationship with someone does not mean you are consenting to further sexual advances that you've already declined.

> whom we paint (unfairly and innacurately) as defensless

Again noone is painting anyone as defenseless. You're view of this entire picture is skewed. It is about being placed in situations that people shouldn't have to be placed it. Or make decisions they shouldn't have to make. That doesn't make anyone defenseless. Victims of sexual harassment (whether men or women) have agency in life, it's just situations that they shouldn't be put in.

Re: I'm a creep. I'm sorry

#453

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> objectively wrong Where can I find a list of "objectively wrong" things, and is there some kind of formal process to challenge them?

Let's make one: 1. Sexual advances towards people you hold power over. So far so good.

And if someone you are interested in sleeping with does it to you (whilst holding power over you) - you are going to complain about that?
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