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Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by valuearb »

intoverflow2 wrote: post #118
IBM wrote: post #57

>Mac sales were up in 2016, once again outpacing the PC industry as a whole, and the new MacBook Pros are a hit, with sales up “about 20 percent” year over year. Brutal to all the MBP hot takes from this fall. Here's a good running list of them. https://mjtsai.com/blog/2016/10/27/new-macbook-pros-and-the-...

>Brutal to all the MBP hot takes from this fall. Not really, what are people supposed to do? Move their entire ecosystem to Windows? Just because it sells doesn't mean it's a great product. Balmer's reign is testament to that so I'm getting pretty tired of (non-shareholder) people pointing at spreadsheet numbers to justify Tim Cook doing a good job.

If the new MBPs weren't well received, people would hold off purchases, and yes, some would move to Windows. Sales are proof they nailed it.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by henshao »

veidr wrote: post #398
adtac wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>32/64GB RAM I'm genuinely curious - why do you need 64 GB of RAM on a laptop? Are there industries where this is a necessity? At that point, wouldn't you be better off having remote machines?

> why do you need 64 GB of RAM I see this question often, and I totally don't get it. I do use 64GB for work, and in light of this news that no new Mac Pro will arrive any time soon, I'm considering bumping that to 128GB[1]. But I don't do high-frequency corporate hegemony work, or video editing, or any of that — I'm just a programmer . Moreover, you could delete IDEA and Xcode and my 5 browsers and 7 text editors an…

Don't browsers generally use more RAM when more is available? I only have 12 GB on my laptop and I've never really noticed anything. It's not like I'm using all 50 tabs and 20 applications at once, and the split second that it takes to reload the app state/data into RAM if it got bumped doesn't bother me.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by _ph_ »

dbbk wrote: post #382
_ph_ wrote: post #207

Best Apple-related news I have heard in a long time. Of course its outrageous, that they didn't listen to their customers earlier and reacted quicker, but it is great that they finally do, and also, that they are not shy admitting via this interview, that they changed their course. Based on how long a product takes to bring to market in a large company, it might have well been the public reaction to the MB Pro releas…

Why would today's spec bump require 6 months of planning? They didn't introduce new components, just moved the price points down a level.

When I wrote my comment I was under the impression that there were slightly improved graphics chips involved which would have meant at least organizing the supply chain and producing enough stock in advance, but in the meantime I read that it is just a price bump - which would cut down the necessary time to just a few weeks for writing the new price lists :).

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by code_duck »

issa wrote: post #318
Eun wrote: post #222

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Window management in OSX is horrible. Finder is even more horrible. It reminds me of the Windows 95 Explorer. A network drive hangs? Good luck with Finder..., the whole system halts.

My number one complaint about OSX is also window management. I've never found anything comparable to the way Windows 7 let you use the left/right arrows to line up windows on half the screen. That is the only thing I miss about Windows, but it's a pretty big one. Also, when dis/connecting monitors on OSX, windows often get lost. ps- if anyone has any suggestions or recommendations, I'd love to hear them!

I don't understand how OSX and Windows lack a drag modifier key. Like, in most Linux WMs you can hold Ctrl and click and drag anywhere in a window to move it.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by Operyl »

yokohummer7 wrote: post #301
Operyl wrote: post #262

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I've yet to figure out what PowerShell can/can't do though really. Maybe I'm weird, but I like that it's bash on OS X, I already know it.

You're not weird. PowerShell does have barriers to entry and that's why I also had used Cygwin on Windows until recently. And it might not change because it is a very different monster than POSIX. It is unfortunate for sure, but still I think it's worth learning especially if you use Windows frequently. Even if you don't, learning it is a fun experience. It's like learning Haskell just to feel another way to program,…

Eh, it's just so .. nuts looking to me that I'll probably stick to *nix land.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by superdaniel »

Eun wrote: post #222
csomar wrote: post #178

Am I the only one that sees OS X as the biggest reason to switch to Mac? I mean Windows is good, but nowhere good as OS X. And please, don't tell me Ubuntu or other linux flavors. They look good (and are good if you are programming on them) but the UX is still lacking a lot. (Never mind the confusion of the different flavors, packaging systems, and configurations). Also god forbid you have a problem (especially a har…

Window management in OSX is horrible. Finder is even more horrible. It reminds me of the Windows 95 Explorer. A network drive hangs? Good luck with Finder..., the whole system halts.

It bothers me more that windows explorer doesn't have tabs natively. I use that all the time in Finder and it's way more convenient to be able to right click on a directory and say open a new terminal tab in that directory then having to go to the title bar and type in cmd in windows.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by skummetmaelk »

csomar wrote: post #178

Am I the only one that sees OS X as the biggest reason to switch to Mac? I mean Windows is good, but nowhere good as OS X. And please, don't tell me Ubuntu or other linux flavors. They look good (and are good if you are programming on them) but the UX is still lacking a lot. (Never mind the confusion of the different flavors, packaging systems, and configurations). Also god forbid you have a problem (especially a har…

>Here are things that I'd pay $1,000 on top of the current Macbook Pro model:

>- Thiner/Lighter

>- Longer Battery Life (5+ hours)

>- 32/64GB RAM

These goals are diametrically opposed.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by antisthenes »

csomar wrote: post #212
adtac wrote: post #193

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>32/64GB RAM I'm genuinely curious - why do you need 64 GB of RAM on a laptop? Are there industries where this is a necessity? At that point, wouldn't you be better off having remote machines?

Remote machines can't match the local machine in terms of latency. Especially when I'm "remote" from America somewhere in the middle of nowhere where the best connection I can get is a 3G. But back to your 32/64Gb question. I need it to run my Docker containers. I do trading and stuff.

Your website/blog is down.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by mbilker »

lallysingh wrote: post #283
csomar wrote: post #178

Am I the only one that sees OS X as the biggest reason to switch to Mac? I mean Windows is good, but nowhere good as OS X. And please, don't tell me Ubuntu or other linux flavors. They look good (and are good if you are programming on them) but the UX is still lacking a lot. (Never mind the confusion of the different flavors, packaging systems, and configurations). Also god forbid you have a problem (especially a har…

Thinkpads work out of the box for every regular feature (I had to write a shell script to make my X1 Yoga handle folding it into tablet mode -- ~15 LOC). A thinkpad + ubuntu I think, will hit all your needs. Lenovo preinstalls Ubuntu on some of their thinkpads in some cases (afaict, large enterprises). The thinkpad line IIRC works to use well-supported hardware for Linux. You can check the certification list to be su…

I have a P50. It is a heavy laptop, but it has a mobile NVIDIA GPU which can easily outclass an Intel Iris graphics processor.

The only front this laptop falls extremely short is with battery life and weight. The P50 is really good if you need the power and I usually get around 5 hours of battery life without Optimus because it interferes with my workflow under Linux.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by valuearb »

nik736 wrote: post #214
DoofusOfDeath wrote: post #170

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Serious question: What room is there for improvement and innovation in displays for MacPro's target users, aside from price-reduction? I can see how photographers want faithful color reproduction with a wide gamut, good image consistency across the whole display, good resolution, and a decent size (maybe 32" tops?) But AFAIK, monitors with those qualities are already available. The only thing I can think of that woul…

Just put out a 27" 5K Display with a competitive price (say $1000 - $1200) and they would earn a lot of money with it instead of not even competing.

Somehow when they released it, it was cheaper than Dell's 5K monitor. And somehow they've sold so many of them that they are the worlds most profitable PC business. Imagine what they'll do if they ever started competing?
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