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Re: Ubuntu on Windows

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The T540p isn't though. I hate mine.

I have a ThinkPad Yoga and an older ThinkPad T520. Both are pretty awful machines. Plus I really don't trust Lenovo anymore. If I were buying a Windows machine, the only one I would consider is the Microsoft Surface Book.

why don't you trust Lenovo?

Re: Ubuntu on Windows

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Would this be possible? How far could anyone (outside of Microsoft) strip down Windows to leave behind just a kernel with a functioning GNU environment (let's say, a shell and file access) ?

Since 2008R2, Windows has had a Server Core version that is trying to move closer and closer to that goal.

MS is also adding an SSH server to Windows.

If they also add Linux userland support to Windows Server, in the near future you will be able to SSH in and get bash prompt on your Windows infrastructure... natively.

I'm kind of liking the future.

Re: Ubuntu on Windows

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Surprised I don't see anyone else mentioning this. This looks to me like typical Microsoft strategy that they utilized a lot 25 years ago. 1. when not leader in given market, make your product fully compatible with competitor 2. start gaining momentum (e.g. why should I use Linux, when on Windows I can run both Linux and Windows applications) 3. once becoming leader break up compatibility 4. rinse and repeat Happened…

Thank you for mentioning this! Really bothered by all the positive comments, especially coming from savvy HN users. Gave this a long look and my main beef is that I couldn't possibly do anything on a Windows Machine in its' current state. Linux isn't just about running apps - there's a philosophy behind the system. Users first! As long as Microsoft continues to disrespect the rights of users in regard to privacy, dat…

This is so true I'm loathe to add to it.

I dual boot my laptop b/w Windows and Linux because the WiFi network at my school has issues with Linux...so I'm forced to use Windows, also for games, but it's such a pain. Today it updated forcefully while I was trying to study; I tried to postpone the update but the option was grayed out. The Windows philosophy through and through is to treat users as ignorant and incompetent idiots for whom even the most basic of tasks must be performed, and who cannot make important decisions. This, IMHO, is the epitome of disrespect, and the reason I look forward with great anticipation to the day when I am able to solely operate within computing environments that afford me the same dignity as the cars I drive.

Re: Ubuntu on Windows

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Is this operating at the libc level, or is it running the Ubuntu glibc package and emulating at the syscall level?

If the latter, it would be interesting to see how things like futex are implemented.

Re: Ubuntu on Windows

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I'm confused what has this list: apt, ssh, rsync, find, grep, awk, sed, sort, xargs, md5sum, gpg, curl, wget, apache, mysql, python, perl, ruby, php, gcc, tar, vim, emacs, diff, patch... to do with Ubuntu?

They are programs which are included in the Ubuntu distribution.

And OS X, and BSD, and OS2 and AmigaOS and probably one million other OSses.

Re: Ubuntu on Windows

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> I'm really hoping this allows me to compile LibreOffice on Windows. Is this not helpful? https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/BuildingOnWi... LibreOffice has official Windows builds, so I would expect that they can already build the software on Windows.

It means I need to install Visual Studio. Right now I'm only developing on Mac OS X and Linux. On top of this, every time Microsoft updates Visual Studio, things like firebird tend to break :( I'd rather use a toolchain I know better. In fact, I'd love to use clang on Windows.

> It means I need to install Visual Studio.

I mean, sure, but (unless things have changed dramatically in the many years since I was a Windows dev) you don't have to do anything more than install VS. The compilers and nmake can be used without opening the GUI. IIRC, you can feed a VS project file (or -I'm pretty sure- a solution file) to nmake and get the same result you'd get from loading the GUI and pressing build.

Re: Ubuntu on Windows

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Why not move to Linux?

Just out of curiosity, what does a Linux desktop offer that's not also natively offered in Mac and also highly polished? Every year I try a switch to Linux desktop. This year I made it as far as trying to get multiple monitors working well. I also dabbed in gaming. In the end I went back to my work=Mac game=Windows duopoly.

In my own experience Linux has the following Advantages over OS X these are of course subjective:

Better Desktop environment Better Package Management More Up to date packages

Some of my knowledge of OS X is likely outdated I haven't used it since 2011

I started using Linux when I was at University late 90's early 00's (Mandrake was my first distro). I switched to OS X around 2005 and used it as my primary operating system for about 5 years.

I used OS X because I'd purchased a MacBook Pro (mostly for the hardware) I still think Macbooks are the nicest laptops I've used to this day I went through 3 iterations of Macbooks before I stopped using OS X. I used OS X because it was good enough but I never fell in love with it.

I absolutely hated the desktop environment, silly things like no ability to customise anything, lack of workspaces, having to hit command q to kill application (because the 'x' button wouldn't close them properly) stuff like that. Workspaces came in a later OS X update which addressed some of my gripes.

It was never easy to install third party packages and libraries in OS X. I think this has improved now, when I used OS X it it was a mess (especially compared to the ease of something like apt). The native system packages were always really ancient - old version of GCC, old version of emacs, python etc. Trying to install newer version of these 'default' packages was not straightforward at all I remember having huge issues getting python 3 working.

Nowadays I run Fedora very happy with it. Not compelled at all to switch back. Linux support for modern laptops is a lot better than it was when I first started using Macs.

My current job is in an 'enterprisey' environment I'm forced to use a locked down version of windows here. Almost anything would be better.

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