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This Man Thinks He Never Has to Eat Again

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Post by skore »

recuter wrote: post #20

I have Crohn's and as a result had periods in my life where I was on a liquid diet of something called Modulen for weeks and months at a time. http://www.nestlehealthscience.com/products/modulen_ibd A similar, more familiar product: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ensure Pretty terrible experience. I had to drink close to a dozen cups of the stuff a day and it didn't go down easy. The stuff worked however and I went bac…

> It seems like this perhaps guy created a better version than Nestle on account of it actually tasting good and not needing a dozen cups a day [...]

Just speculating here, but the limiting factor for Nestle might be to get the same stuff that he is using into a product that you can deliver as a ready-made "just add water" mixture. He specifically wrote that he has to make it fresh every day, so that could be the difference.

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Post by Evgeny »

XorNot wrote: post #392
Evgeny wrote: post #371

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just to clarify - that was an example. Whatever will be wrong with Soylent, will probably be something no one considered. What do we know about completely eliminating fiber from the diet for an extended period of time? Or what do we know about chewing food being beneficial for dental health? It was mentioned he hardly poops on Soylent - were there prolonged studies on this subject? Willingness to risk is something I…

The diet of the Inuit was widely believed to be impossible for some time (and probably still is) because no one thought it was possible they could subsist solely on fish meat. When put to the test by a pair of scientists who replicated the diet though, they found few ill-effects - except at one point where they were hitting a nutritional deficiency, but corrected it by putting semi-rotten fish product (which is a dis…

I would like to know more ...

I know a bit about Inuit and their diet - I've read "My Life with the Eskimo" by Vilhjalmur Stefansson

http://www.amazon.com/Life-Eskimo-New-Vilhjalmur-Stefansson/...

Stefansson and another explorer, Andersson, participated in an experiment where they did not eat anything but meat for a year - and remained in excellent health

http://inhumanexperiment.blogspot.com.au/2009/09/two-brave-m...

But I haven't heard about the 'rotten fish' and specific nutrients that can be obtained from it ...

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Post by cbennett »

zwischenzug wrote: post #427
robotresearcher wrote: post #399

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Steve Jobs observed very strict diets which he believed would keep him super healthy. Result: dead at 56 despite essentially unlimited resources.

His cancer was caused by his diet? Or are you saying that choosing diet over medicine killed him earlier than could otherwise have been the case.

From the article stratoscope (one comment tree down) links to: "My pancreas levels were completely out of whack, which was really terrifying … considering everything.” (Jobs died after a long battle with pancreatic cancer in October 2011) Food for thought..

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Post by X4 »

tocomment wrote: post #48

I'd be really curious to learn how his teeth and gums are doing. If you can find a way to eat without ever having food touch your teeth or gums, I'd imagine you'd have incredible oral health. Thoughts?

What no fibers and structure?

Problems with the digestion system, teeth and gums will occur that way. So, even if it was healthy, it would lack fibers and structure that cleanup our digestion system and make our jaw, teeth and gums stronger.

Chewing your food thoroughly also exercises your teeth and stimulates the vitality of the socket and gums which hold the teeth in the jaw. We know that activity that causes muscles to stimulate the bone protects against bone loss and one loss and decalcification is one of the many ways which teeth become lose in their sockets and contribute to plaque and bacteria getting under the gum line, which is a primary reason for tooth loss.

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Post by vidarh »

FooBarWidget wrote: post #425
bgilroy26 wrote: post #378

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This might be a different tack, but what if you take Mr. Taleb's "nature" to be human nature [1]? People don't tend to eat poison mushrooms as a rule. In that case, his rule would be a good one. If you drift in to a new area of human endevour, the people who follow you out there are taking a risk until the area is well-traveled [1] In the Aristotelian sense: human nature is the proportionate sum of all human activity…

You define nature as activities that people perform most? By that reasoning the culture with the largest population is representative of typical human nature. That just seems wrong. There are almost 2 billion Chinese. They love to eat chicken paws and cow intestines. So that is human's natural diet?

Chicken feet and cow intestines taste great. I'm not Chinese. My favorite dish when visiting Beijing a few years back was spicy duck intestines. Looked like noodles.

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Post by X4 »

kafkaesque wrote: post #152

When consuming all vitamins and minerals together, some cancel each other out. I tried Googling some articles to back up what I'm saying. Unfortunately, there is nothing presented in a pretty pre-packaged form. So go with this. e.g.: CTRL + F "vitamin C supplements can destroy dietary vitamin B12" and "Potassium" here: http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/natural/926.html He may not be absorbing all the nutrie…

I believe you are right! You've probably read about the Bee Venom in a "nano-particle" that kills HIV right?

Let's assume that the structure of Apples, Bananas etc. serves a specific purpose. (Like everything else in Nature) Effectively to transport nutrients within nano-structures more effectively to their destination, than isolated consumption.

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Post by pyre »

Kim_Bruning wrote: post #429
droopyEyelids wrote: post #332

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It's a curious statement about our society where the idea that the fuel for the human body could be simple. "Basic nutrients and calories" It's all produced by self replicating lifeforms we've only begun to comprehend, right?

Right, but those sophisticated replicators are so sophisticated that they tend to be rather tolerant of their input. There's no reason to think we can't science out what that input needs to be, or at least to be able to find one or more valid subsets of input. This is a rather large improvement over what most people do; one typically applies little to no science whatsoever. :-P

The liver is pretty tolerate of alcohol, but a lifetime of alcohol use can cause liver issues.
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