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Re: Fastpotify

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Post by dominotw »

the_sleaze_ wrote: post #359
lostlogin wrote: post #319

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Music discovery on Spotify used to be great, but I left 5+ years ago so I’m unsure now.

Spotify has gone downhill in that regard for sure. It floods my pages with "created for you" which is just the same 4-5 artists played in the last few weeks ago kludged together into a playlist. Alongside some of the worst music you could imagine (Payola? Idk..) Any recommendations anyone has for music discovery I'm all ears. I recently moved away from a town that had a 10/10 radio station and I'm really feeling the…

they try to sneak in stuff like payola because they dont have to pay high premiums like taylor swift so its in their interest to move ppl away from top artists into arcane.

Re: Fastpotify

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Post by HeadOfProbing »

rot256 wrote: post #238

Spotify is, without doubt, the worst piece of software that I still use on a daily basis. It's incredibly buggy, incredibly slow, and the UI has so many "usability inconsistencies". I find the Android app particularly bad, just a couple of examples: - Under a playlist you get a list of suggested songs, the UI element looks like a "regular song", but unlike every other "song" element the user has been trained to recog…

I couldn't disagree more

Re: Fastpotify

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Post by phusion »

Took a very long time to get it to sign in and play on my local machine... we'll see if it's worth switching from the official client.

Re: Fastpotify

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Post by unshavedyak »

moritonal wrote: post #217
MrGilbert wrote: post #175

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Interestingly enough, https://fastpotify.rocks/winamp/ shows what I dislike about LLM-generated text: From "The buttons do what they say [...]" to "[...] a different format and are not supported" is just a huge wall of text without any visual guidance. It's as if the person writing these lines didn't care about the result. One could argue that people not caring about written documentation isn't anything new, but in t…

It's a weird world where they put less time into writing that doc than you did reading it.

The sad thing is that may not be true. If you use LLMs to write docs and actually read it, you can spend far longer trying to convince the LLM to write in a sane way than to just write it yourself.

Semi related, but i've caught myself nitpicking small things from the code of an LLM only to realize i'm putting in more work trying to convince the LLM to make the code the way i want rather than just modifying it myself lol. It's as if i'm trying to educate it in the ideal way, as if it would learn and not repeat the mistake.. but it rarely does of course.

It seems to me that interacting with LLMs has a large pile of cognitive traps for humans.

Re: Fastpotify

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Post by laddershoe »

pbasista wrote: post #11
wilted-iris wrote: post #2

Spotify is in the process of killing the librespot project that this and most third party Spotify players are built on. I think the golden age of music streaming is coming to an end. I’ve migrated to a self hosted library with streaming and radio for discovery. I hope we’ll see many projects in the space flourish. Many, like Navidrome and the whole OpenSubsonic ecosystem, seem to be doing quite well.

> Spotify is in the process of killing the librespot project How could they possibly do that? They cannot prevent people or AI from reverse engineering their APIs.

You're right, they can't prevent that, but they can change their APIs in breaking ways enough to make librespot unreliable, to the point it's just not worth it.

I assume that for a long time, Spotify was content to ignore projects like librespot... they didn't help those projects, but didn't harm them either, and generally to keep things stable enough that a project based on librespot basically stayed working, which is why you saw so many OSS tools that used it behind the scenes. It does seem like that balance shifted over the last year, and now librespot is constantly breaking in new and mysterious ways. Some accounts work, others don't. Some tracks play, others don't. The devs did a great job fixing that stuff, but it's a game of whack-a-mole, and Spotify seems to have really upped the frequency of how often they break things. And that's for the lossy decoding, which is functionality that used to be pretty stable. Spotify reached out and (I assume) made some threats that explicitly shut down their work around lossless audio [1].

FYI -- I'm not associated with the librespot project, but I was actively working on a project that relied on it. Eventually I gave up in favor of self hosting, because I want my music to not break all the time. Shame, because I used to like Spotify a lot and now I'm actively looking to move away from it. That's one premium family plan subscription they're gonna lose! I'm sure they'll feel the sting.

[1] https://github.com/librespot-org/librespot/issues/1583#issue...

Re: Fastpotify

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Post by nsteel »

kennywinker wrote: post #105
stijnveken wrote: post #51

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Epic actually sold Bandcamp 3 years ago. I only started using it lately so I can't say how it was before, but I think it's still good. https://pitchfork.com/news/epic-games-sells-bandcamp-amid-la...

Unfortunately bandcamp laid off virtually all of their engineers a month or so back: https://www.hypebot.com/new-bandcamp-layoffs-why-artists-are... So, not enshittified, but either abandoned or headed for ensloppification.

Did they only recently release access to a new streaming API or did I dream that (again)?

Re: Fastpotify

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Post by righthand »

szszrk wrote: post #137
righthand wrote: post #65

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Spoiler: Spotify has always been terrible. The golden age of music streaming was Zune pass where you could stream and download 10 songs/mo. And arguably Pandora always had a better radio algorithm than Spotify.

> Spotify has always been terrible. It wasn't, really. At least not completely. I fully agree on the algorithm - I miss times of scrobbling to Last.fm, which was much better at this. (Spotify always supported scrobbling to Last.fm from their client, surprisingly). Spotify used to be snappy and worked really well on Linux. I even used it for local libraries, as it was one of the few options that didn't crash on mine.…

Scrobbling to Last.fm isn’t music streaming.

Re: Fastpotify

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Post by l72 »

keyringlight wrote: post #106
dylan604 wrote: post #9

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> radio for discovery was a big question mark I had as well. The Clear Channel and iHeart stations are not known for discovery. Now if you find a college station or by some miracle an independent station you can get some new stuff. My favorite local college station is also ad free. They also have an app which I lean on as it's not the strongest transmitter so their coverage is spotty. Maybe there's other indy station…

Internet radio is still going strong: https://www.radio-browser.info/

Wow this is amazing. I can't believe shoutcast still exists too!! I have fond memories of hosting a shoutcast stream at very low bandwidth over dialup!

There seems to be a few decent apps in F-droid and lots of stations with no ads and very specific genres like just depressive black metal!

Re: Fastpotify

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Post by RAM-bunctious »

lirolero wrote: post #286
mogoh wrote: post #264

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Why is spotify so popular? There are different solutions to listen to music. What does spotify do that almost no one else does? Is it the music library or something else? I use youtube music, but I am looking for alternatives (but not spotify for various reasons).

I can’t speak for everyone, but for me, it just works. I’ve never had any of the issues people are mentioning in this thread. The app isn’t slow or buggy for me, I’ve never had artists I listen to disappear from my playlists, and I can find pretty much every song I want to listen to. Most people I know use Spotify too, so sharing stuff is just a little more convenient.

Other people no doubt have legitimate complaints, but using Spotify is barely registering as a problem compared to other applications I have to deal with.
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