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That has nothing to do with your general professional respect for others and knowing how to read the room.
I've read the room. I think I'm okay.
Illinois just passed a law that puts Linux on the hook for age verification
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Re: Illinois just passed a law that puts Linux on the hook for age verification
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Simple. If unconfigured, user birthdate should default to 1970-01-01
No. The stupid-ass law [1]: > "Internet-enabled device" means a smartphone, tablet, or personal laptop or desktop computer that provides cellular or wireless connectivity, is capable of connecting to the Internet, runs an operating system, and is capable of downloading and running applications. Enumerate all network interfaces. Are any of them cellular or wireless? No? Then the law doesn’t apply. [1] https://my.ilga.…
It sounds like you could even get away with a wireless USB dongle, as it’s not part of the computer.
Re: Illinois just passed a law that puts Linux on the hook for age verification
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>At what point do they become subject to Illinois law? When they sell to someone in Illinois, although there is probably some bullshit case law out there that says the website owner has to take basic steps to block Illinois users to avoid all IL jurisdiction. >And can Illinois prosecute someone for doing something that is legal in California while they are in California? No.
But CA cannot stop IL from demanding someone be sent to IL courts if they think an IL law was broken.
Presumably, there is a defense available in court that would prevent CA from extraditing someone to IL who is innocent because they have nothing to do with IL.
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The adtech companies need human verification so they can keep selling ads. Age verification is a way to get that under the radar because normal people are pissed off about "the children" and "the social media". You've also got cultural warriors who would love to censor speech on the Internet championing it, too.
This kind of age signalling with no verification whatsoever does not help the adtech companies at all.
As an example: Decades ago CPUID and a machine readable processor serial number was massively controversial. Today burned-in device IDs being sent to websites is status quo.
Re: Illinois just passed a law that puts Linux on the hook for age verification
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How do you propose that a child's device will remember their age in a "legally distinct" way for the life of the device? You ought understand what i am asking here, as it directly follows what i said before. You have a child, somehow the device knows how old the child is. An adult sets it? great. What if the device wasn't set up by a responsible adult? You don't foresee a black market of "no-age-audit" devices? How d…
I really don't know where you're coming from. You seem to be imagining that the law requires some kind of cryptographically validated age attestation. The law requires nothing of the sort. It's just an age field associated with the account. There are many ways to get around it, none of which the law demands protection against. It's simply a standardized way for parents to ensure a modicum of reasonably effective age-…
Re: Illinois just passed a law that puts Linux on the hook for age verification
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chronological feed nuisances can be blocked or not followed in the first place. It is absolutely not an algorithm by the definition we're all using here. It is an algorithm on a data structure , but it is not an algorithm to drive ad impressions. do you see the difference? this is why people say "Algo" when talking about the latter, and "Algorithm" when talking with other like-minded people about data structures and…
Someone chose "most recent" when implementing "most recent", and then that decision automatically controls what is shown next. They could have chosen "most recently liked" or "most liked" or "minimum MD5 checksum" or "alphabetical" or "most liked in past 24h" or "likes / hours * followers / followee_ratio * poster_birthdate_days_diff(admin_birthday) * tfidf_rank_matching_books_published_in_1885" - all of those would…
Re: Illinois just passed a law that puts Linux on the hook for age verification
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IIRC systemd already started implementing some hooks for age verification API
how would it work in the age of everything virtual, from containers to VMs, even an OS instance running in a browser, with OS/kernels being spanned in sub-seconds and existing even for just one call with no user interaction. Are they going to inherit age bracket from supervisor/parent process? Which of course wouldn't work for AWS/GCP, and many other cases. It looks to me like it would require something similar to se…
Re: Illinois just passed a law that puts Linux on the hook for age verification
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#449So in red states porn is being used, and in blue states TikTok and Instagram are being used. Is anyone tracking who is behind the concerted efforts here? For example, which organizations, executives, lobbyists and politicians are valid and responsible parties?
Tech incumbents whose businesses are reliant on selling ad space need to designate who is a verified human on the internet as soon as possible or their businesses go to zero once the entire web is AI bots and all the traffic is fraudulent and worthless, so they have to play as many angles as they can to achieve this.
Re: Illinois just passed a law that puts Linux on the hook for age verification
#450So in red states porn is being used, and in blue states TikTok and Instagram are being used. Is anyone tracking who is behind the concerted efforts here? For example, which organizations, executives, lobbyists and politicians are valid and responsible parties?
You raise an interesting point in the first sentence. It might be that age sniffing could actually violate the US constitution. As for lobbyists: I think we can probably determine the key lobbyists, e. g. if we map the data and names. And ideally also the money given to them. Ultimately they are faceless though, because corruption is easily exchangeable. The issue here is systemic though. The US "democracy" no longer…