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Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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In the words of the person who announced the ban, when moderating a discussion on it 8 months prior:[1] > > Dear Codeberg, please push out and ban these political fighters. > This is not a neutral space, Codeberg is political. If you disagree with someone, be constructive and don't call them merely political and think that's a reason for the discussion to stop. the maintainers of Codeberg do not believe that they are…

A side effect of platform vs publisher. They are voluntarily choosing to be a publisher. Publishers are responsible for the actions that the users do on their platform. States are happier with and want more publishers as it's easier to censor, add surveillance and control them than neutral platforms. The few past times when Cloudfare censored politically was interesting as they quickly made apologies because they wan…

> platform vs publisher

No such distinction exists. It was a just-so story made up by people trying to push the idea that moderation created a legal liability.

And it's German, anyway. The DMCA doesn't even apply there.

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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When I go to a vegetarian restaurant I don't demand they serve me a juicy meat burger. We have different places with different philosophies. It is okay to be different, otherwise everything would look boringly identical. Sincerely, A meat lover and a codeberg fan.

It's a bit of an inappropriate comparison though, since restaurants are ubiquitous and reasonable GitHub alternatives are vanishingly rare. People are quite rightly more troubled when providers in a low-cardinality space become unviable.

What is a "reasonable GitHub alternative" exactly?

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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> How do you know what the politics will be next? I was very tempted to reply with a ”always has been” astronaut meme, or possibly Morpheus ”what if I told you” meme. But I would not have contributed in a good manner like that. The way I have come to understand it is that everything is indeed political. An I mean it, even driving at the speed limit is in a sense a political act saying ”I respect the laws by our polit…

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I can't understand what you're trying to say here.

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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How do you know what the politics will be next? They banned vibe coded projects too… goodness knows how they think they can determine / enforce that.

This is why I don't use Mastodon. What you can see is completely reliant on what kind of politics the admin supports at that time.

But you use HN, where what you can see is completely reliant on what kind of politics the admin supports at that time?

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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I think you're misunderstanding "codeberg is political". Everything is political, FOSS is political, GitHub is also political. When people say "We're not political", or "That's not political". What they're actually saying is that it's within my own politics.

My issue with this is not that codeberg and its members want to uphold a certain set of political beliefs. Any private organization is free to do that. It's that they haven't defined the rule that's supposed to encode those beliefs. As written, the rule is a non-exhaustive example of "content that harms codeberg's reputation". Someone asked in the pr whether "cryptocurrency-related" is defined anywhere and it merged…

Real-world lines are blurry. If you try to define a bright line, someone finds a loophole. Like the other thread (about codeberg banning vibecoded projects) had arguments about whether a project with 49.999% generated code would count. Which is based on a category error - things just don't work that way.

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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If Codeberg becomes a place where you cannot just host any of your projects without caring about its politics like you can host on GitHub, GitHub monopoly will continue. This is very unfortunate, and despite I prefer Forgejo web UI to GitHub's web UI, I'll have to stay off codeberg out of concerns they'll wipe my repos in case, for example, they decide any LLM-assisted code is suddenly disallowed on the platform.

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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Yes, in communities that try to claim that certain things are "political" and certain things are "not political", "banning cryptocurrency" could be rejected on the basis that it is "political". The point is that saying something like "we don't do politics" is absurd. There is always an underlying politics, even if it has been normalized or obfuscated, repressed or unexamined. Reread my above comment.

No, I think both, political and apolitical decisions can exist. If you ban a project because its CI pipeline mines crypto and that ia a drain on your server, it is an apolitical argument. If you ban a project because it drains recources because an AI agent is commutting multiple times a second, that is apolitical. If you ban a project, because it hosts content that doesn't align with your ideals since it uses cryptoc…

Is the set of acceptable uses for shared infrastructure not a political question? What's different between mining crypto on a free CI server, letting my cows eat all the grass at the park, or dumping industrial waste into the river?

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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Even if you reduce it to that, you still endorse (or at least accept) the side effects of the production of what you eat. If you eat meat, you are okay with the effects it has on climate change, and that’s political. If you do the opposite and don’t eat meat, that’s also political. If you consume food from non-organic agriculture, you are okay with species extinction, especially insects. If you buy the cheapest foods…

That's disregarding that the people in power routinely make it as difficult as possible to have a choice. If you buy the cheapest foods, maybe it's because you want to eat and pay rent, and spending any more than that would render you homeless. Becoming homeless will not save the poor in another country, even if your purchases to avoid becoming homeless would have contributed a vanishingly tiny, indirect amount to th…

People in power removing your choices is definitely political.

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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GitHub is the worst place to host your code. Except for all of the other places.

Well, GitHub seems unlikely to randomly ban your project if it fits within an entire category of services some admin arbitrarily decided they don't like. I know which one I'll be sticking with.

It routinely bans projects for downloading media.
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