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How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

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Re: How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

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"substrate" - I don't know what training they did with Opus 4.7 --> Fable/Mythos 5, but dang does it like the word substrate. Drives me insane. I had never heard anyone use this word prior in real technical writing or speaking.

Another one is "surface", like in "across all product surfaces". I've been in the field for 15 years and have never heard that particular usage before.

That is absolutely a normal thing to say

Re: How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

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Though I haven’t been a professional writer, I’ve been a good writer with an expansive vocabulary since high school where English was my best subject despite being a STEM maven. I hate the fact that what was previously considered an advantageous skill is now a millstone in public use. I hate having to dumb down and self—censor in order to avoid being accused of using (or being) an LLM. Even though my writing has a fe…

When I write these days, I am more aggressive in using "I", so it's clear it's my own voice. Generally, an LLM is less prone to self-reference like that unless it's prompted to, I guess.

Good advice though too much “I” can sound a little self-centred to my ears.

If/when AGI arrives I assume this tactic will stop working.

Re: How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

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post #150

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The gun is not smoking; it’s an honest footgun that will be load-bearing when it lands.

That's a real distinction, you're right to point it out.

You're right, and that's the sharpest thing you've said all day.

Re: How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

#445

I do not mind when I am coding with Claude and it uses all the typical claudisms. I am much more bothered when I am reading a blog post, email, or other form of prose and I see those same claudisms. I guess they are not annoying since I know I am talking to an LLM and expect the typical responses. When I am reading prose online that I previously would have expected a human to write, it can be quite jarring to realize…

I’m trying to figure what’s so bad about humans using LLMisms. They seem quite useful at quickly conveying meaning using well-accepted terms.

Re: How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

#446

I do not mind when I am coding with Claude and it uses all the typical claudisms. I am much more bothered when I am reading a blog post, email, or other form of prose and I see those same claudisms. I guess they are not annoying since I know I am talking to an LLM and expect the typical responses. When I am reading prose online that I previously would have expected a human to write, it can be quite jarring to realize…

I didn't use Claude for a long time, but my coworkers did, so I got infected through a side channel: I ended up reading their vibed docs, noticed "load-bearing", kind of liked it, and started using it in conversation, until I got feedback that I was "talking like Claude", so now I avoid the phrase entirely. The intersection of language and social norms is interesting.

I had a similar experience, only, I was my natural way of talking.

e.g. one pattern I had/have is

the good news is is aviliable. The is loadbearing though, ...

a near automatic script I rattle off in discussions/consults. When you solve similar problems several times, you figure out what works for communicating things you stick with it and you recycle/polish.

problem is, when for whatever reason, that pattern ends up as part of the core statistical distribution a model uses. You could royally fuck ones life up if working for a "frontier" lab, by simply finding a person with an acceptable speech rythem and cloning it, making it synonymous with ai slop. you'd destroy that persons image every time they open their mouth without them realising it. I for one started randomly getting quite hostile reactions from software devs who would be exposed to more llm putput than others.

Imagine an AI lab steals your voice, and uses it to scam call folks all day. Now, every time you call anyone, you are met with an immediate hangup. you'd have to put on a fake voice just to get the call to stay connected.

I love ai, and what it promises excites me, but as usual, humanity has a way of taking a cool tool and fucking it up royally. maybe the solution is to simply pepper slurs into everything one writes to blacklist ones content from training.

Re: How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

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Claude's "honest" is an interesting example because we can trace it to a specific document that it was trained on extensively: the "Constitution" is identified to Claude in its training as the core of what it is, and it uses the word "honest" or a derivative 57 times, including having a whole section on it. > Honesty is a core aspect of our vision for Claude’s ethical character. Indeed, while we want Claude’s honesty…

"Genuine" appears 50 times too. I think you're onto something.

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Re: How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

#449

I just use a ban list in CLAUDE.md: fold, crux, invariant, gate. I find "load-bearing" can be load-bearing so it's exempted.

WTH is a "fold"?

I think Claude means something like map-reduced or at least a functionally derived series of some kind?

Anything with series data sounds like a laundromat.

Re: How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

#450

The biggest consistent tell for LLM writing is when the conversation leaks through into the final prose. You read along with the text and things seem to be going fine until all of the sudden it starts arguing against a position that no one has actually taken and which doesn't feature elsewhere in the text at all. Then it drops that and goes on for a while before doing the whole thing again about a totally different t…

Yes, it's like corrective scar tissue in the final output.
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