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Re: GPT-5.6

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The developer's guide ( https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/guides/latest-model ) has some interesting semantic tips for using the model: > Intent understanding: GPT-5.6 can better infer the user’s underlying goal and intended level of work without you specifying every step. Continue to state important constraints, approval boundaries, and success criteria explicitly. > Original image detail: GPT-5.6 preserves the…

> Avoid generic brevity instructions: GPT-5.6 is more sensitive than GPT-5.5 to instructions such as “Be concise,” “Keep it short,” or “Use minimal text.” RIP Caveman skill. Six month good. Now skill dead.

Caveman speak make compression not brevity

Re: GPT-5.6

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Ok long time Claude Code user here; lately I've started to realize there's other great models out there I should be trying, but I'm hesitant to leave Claude Code behind for something new. What's the consensus today on codex vs claude code, does it really matter anymore?

A few less obvious niceties of Codex:

- built-in image generation using your subscription, which can be super handy

- can actually edit Google Docs and Google Sheets (Claude can only create new or sometimes append)

- I get a surprising amount of mileage out of the $20 plan

They both have their places for sure.

Re: GPT-5.6

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seeing the dramatic differences in scores just going from high to xhigh is just another demonstration of the bitter lesson: Just keep scaling search and learning. We are probably going to need a lot more GPUs.

These aren’t raw base models they are the result of a ton of RLHF and various adjustments. Bitter lesson wildly overstated in this context.

rlhf = reinforcement learning from human feedback

(had to look it up)

Re: GPT-5.6

#444

"GPT‑5.6 is available starting today across ChatGPT, Codex, and the OpenAI API. The rollout is starting globally now and will continue gradually toward full availability over the next 24 hours."

My Codex app got upgraded to the new unified ChatGPT app. I don't see Sol available though. Only Terra and Luna. I'm on the Pro plan. Anyone else see it?

Same here (Business Plan).

Re: GPT-5.6

#445

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been using codex app server. Works great. https://learn.chatgpt.com/docs/app-server

Hmm, thanks. Didn't know about this. But looks like a bunch of hassle to set it up?

if you don't want to hassle with it, use desktop app, you either can make it remote controllable or you can control other devboxes.

Re: GPT-5.6

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> GPT‑5.6 also introduces more predictable prompt caching, including support for explicit cache breakpoints (opens in a new window) and a 30-minute minimum cache life. Great to read they are moving away from the 5 minute cache defaults. Hopefully other providers follow soon!

They highlight the cache write price now much more in the guide. Did it increase vs. prior generations?

There was no cache write before!

https://openrouter.ai/openai/gpt-5.5?endpoint=58e5b336-423e-...

vs

https://openrouter.ai/openai/gpt-5.6-sol?endpoint=a54c5de0-8...

Re: GPT-5.6

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’d argue the opposite. I’ve switched back and forth from one to the other and Opus/Fable has been constantly better than any GPT in my daily work. It’s a bit slower but it does the things right, with as little code as possible, some comments where needed. Codex is faster but you always have to correct it because it got something wrong; it writes tons of code ("let me add a small helper") with obvious comments.

Purely anecdotally the one persistent issue I have with LLMs writing code is that they are absolutely paranoid and add a load of indirection and defensive crap and even if you prompt to avoid that it will often require manual steering to remove the cruft.

I’ve experienced this with GPT but not with Opus/Fable.

Re: GPT-5.6

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Ok long time Claude Code user here; lately I've started to realize there's other great models out there I should be trying, but I'm hesitant to leave Claude Code behind for something new. What's the consensus today on codex vs claude code, does it really matter anymore?

It's not clear replies to this thread aren't openAI employees or incentivized influencers, but every benchmark has gpt-5.5 underperforming opus 4.8, sometimes by as much as 10%. Can they all be wrong/paid-off?

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Re: GPT-5.6

#449
post #379

Here are 18 pelicans - six each for Luna, Terra and Sol at the six different reasoning effort levels (plus the price to generate each one): https://static.simonwillison.net/static/2026/gpt-5.6-pelican... Or if you want to see some in 3D, OpenAI featured a pelican riding a tricycle, bicycle, pony and another pelican in their livestream this morning: https://www.youtube.com/live/Wq45rvPGNHs?t=1070s

Surely "how to draw a SVG pelican on a bike" has made it into the training data by now ...

If that was the case in a non-trivial way you'd see mode collapse, but you don't, they come out differently.

Re: GPT-5.6

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post #379

Here are 18 pelicans - six each for Luna, Terra and Sol at the six different reasoning effort levels (plus the price to generate each one): https://static.simonwillison.net/static/2026/gpt-5.6-pelican... Or if you want to see some in 3D, OpenAI featured a pelican riding a tricycle, bicycle, pony and another pelican in their livestream this morning: https://www.youtube.com/live/Wq45rvPGNHs?t=1070s

Time to dump this test. Probably not a coincidence every version has the same rolling green hills, gradient blue sky, sun in the corner, etc.
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