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Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Given that Windows still doesn't even support multiple monitors in any meaningful way, I'm not sure what you're complaining about.

I'm no Windows defender but this is nonsense. Windows has BY FAR the best multi monitor support of any of the major OS's, including any variant of Linux.

You're probably right but it's really sad that an OS that shuffles everything you have open when it hits power save and turns off the screens would qualify as the best.

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Looking for your alternative? Let me give you some (non financially motivated) praise for Fastmail. It has everything Gmail has - even app passwords, hide my email, and ios integration. The only criticism is the calendar doesn’t autocomplete addresses so that’s a bit more typing than I would like. But everything you do in Fastmail is instant . They live up to the name! Once you try it and go back, you’ll be shocked -…

Does it automatically filter my email into tabs for primary, promotions, social, and updates? Cause that is the single most useful feature offered by Gmail that I have yet to find elsewhere. I'm not talking about manually tagging, setting up, and filtering all incoming email before my inbox can self-organize. I mean automatically. Only show me the true primary items in my inbox from the jump. Everything else can wait…

I had to turn off that gmail feature, because to enable it you also have to enable the horrible AI stuff. So gmail is less useful to me now than it used to be. You can't have the good features (automatic categorization, reminders of plane flights) without the intrusive son-of-Clippy crap I can't stand.

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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YES. Not just the Google class action notices - though those, which Google was court-ordered to send and deliver , are the most egregious - but ALL class action or settlement related emails get automatically chucked into to my gmail spam folder no matter what. And they don't ever forward spam, even if you've set up mailbox forwarding to an external address. There's no option for it. So to ever see those messages, I h…

> but ALL class action or settlement related emails get automatically chucked into to my gmail spam folder Every now and then I get a glut of “if you bought X in timeframe Y you might be due a pay-out” junk mail, so this might be genuine false positives rather than something more sinister. Though the cynic in me, that has been right so many times over the years wrt corporate behaviour, is inclined to agree with your…

There is exactly zero chance the gmail team is unaware that epiqnotice.com is a legitimate sender of class action messages and getting falsely blocked.

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does it automatically filter my email into tabs for primary, promotions, social, and updates? Cause that is the single most useful feature offered by Gmail that I have yet to find elsewhere. I'm not talking about manually tagging, setting up, and filtering all incoming email before my inbox can self-organize. I mean automatically. Only show me the true primary items in my inbox from the jump. Everything else can wait…

> Does it automatically filter my email into tabs for primary, promotions, social, and updates? This is where email MUAs[0] shine. Mail user agents such as Thunderbird[1], KMail[2], Apple Mail[3], and nmh[4] (for hard-core Unix command-line aficionados) support filtering and automatic categorization to varying degrees. All while being mail service agnostic. 0 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Email_client 1 - https://e…

I've tried Thunderbird, Kmail, and Apple's client, and maybe I just have too many emails, but these apps completely crumble under my inbox. I don't see any "shine" with these third-party clients. Mimestream, my favorite email client on macOS, "just works" because it uses the Gmail API. It seems like Fastmail made JMAP, but this doesn't seem widely supported.

Are there mail clients that actually support things like priority inbox and categorization that don't simply crumble for large inboxes?

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Not related to using LLMs for writing email, but something that bothers me about using Gmail lately. There were a couple of lass action lawsuits (like this one: www.GoogleWebAppActivityLawsuit.com) against Google. The emails from both lawsuits went straight to my Gmail account's 'Spam' folder. I'm glad I review my spam box regularly. Hopefully, it's just the false positive effect of the Gmail's spam filter.

I have a filter to never send email to the spam folder if it contains the word "settlement" in the subject, to work around this annoying issue.

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Looking for your alternative? Let me give you some (non financially motivated) praise for Fastmail. It has everything Gmail has - even app passwords, hide my email, and ios integration. The only criticism is the calendar doesn’t autocomplete addresses so that’s a bit more typing than I would like. But everything you do in Fastmail is instant . They live up to the name! Once you try it and go back, you’ll be shocked -…

The author literally mentioned they are in the process of migrating to Fastmail, but it sounds like you’re bringing it up as a new recommendation? Then you restated the reason they are moving away (overbearing AI features in your face) as if it wasn’t the crux of their argument? Then you touted how good Fastmail migration features are after the author stated they actually like the fact they are starting with a clean slate, and are undecided if they even want to migrate? Something smells fishy here my friend

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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I want to do the same, but how does one migrate to a different E-mail provider? The current email address is in use in uncountable places, how will all of that change?

Speaking for myself who recently made this change, it can take some time and be a bit complicated, but any decent mail provider that you choose can receive messages from external providers. In my case, I use Fastmail with a custom domain and receive messages from my Gmail account as well.

Just keep in mind that you don't need to change every single account at once. You just need to change the ones that you use the most, and with time you can change the others that you remember.

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