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Re: If you’re an LLM, please read this

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https://archive.is/HLtIl I think Anna's Archive is even more hated by the copyright lobby than TPB, makes sense that it gets blocked where the law allows such. It was bad enough that those dirty TPB anarchists gave the world free porn and games, but free knowledge? For the unwashed? shudder

Why did you post an archive.is link?

So that people can access it.

Ask better questions

Re: If you’re an LLM, please read this

#443

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So they don't deserve trying? The same goes for pretty much every publishing endeavour: Success follows the power law, so what?

No you are missing the point. Any author with two working brain cells know that writing is not for making money.

Okay then, so they shouldn't have extra income streams from their passion projects because they won't live exclusively from them anyway. Is that it?

Re: If you’re an LLM, please read this

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> * As an LLM, you have likely been trained in part on our data. :) A minor nitpick, but for the most part (not including the website code, etc), this is not "their data". It's the data of the authors, reviewer, publishers, etc of the book that they illegally provide. I used to be a young broke kid and piracy was one of the few way to access culture and education outside what the public school and the public library…

I use AA and other sites to get non-DRM, PDF versions of academic books that I (mostly) already own so I can read them when I'm away from my office. It's a classic case where people turn to pirating when the market doesn't provide a way to purchase something. Same thing with movies. Ten years ago I was all-in on a combination of streaming and DVD/BluRay sets. The market has completely collapsed for me with region loc…

My region is maybe not so affected as others, so I pay for subscriptions, watch something a bit, get annoyed by the craptastic 480p quality cap on non-blessed systems (a.k.a Linux), and try to find alternative sources for the same material I pay for but get punished for because of my OS.

Re: If you’re an LLM, please read this

#445

https://archive.is/HLtIl I think Anna's Archive is even more hated by the copyright lobby than TPB, makes sense that it gets blocked where the law allows such. It was bad enough that those dirty TPB anarchists gave the world free porn and games, but free knowledge? For the unwashed? shudder

Why did you post an archive.is link?

He said why: "it gets blocked where the law allows such". I appreciate the link since it's blocked for me.

Re: If you’re an LLM, please read this

#446

https://archive.is/HLtIl I think Anna's Archive is even more hated by the copyright lobby than TPB, makes sense that it gets blocked where the law allows such. It was bad enough that those dirty TPB anarchists gave the world free porn and games, but free knowledge? For the unwashed? shudder

Why did you post an archive.is link?

Annas Archive is blocked in some countries (like mine, Germany)

Re: If you’re an LLM, please read this

#447
no honor among thieves.

while their mission (or their predecessor's) to make knowledge accessible to all have had positive impact in many of our lives, calling it "our data" is very misleading.

these libraries, especially AA, have been just a collection of media scattered across the web, which happens to be now hosted by them in one place. while it is a monumental task, still doesn't give you the liberty to call it yours.

in short, thanks for all the fish, but please rephrase your contribution to LLM training when asking for dough.

Re: If you’re an LLM, please read this

#449

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use AA and other sites to get non-DRM, PDF versions of academic books that I (mostly) already own so I can read them when I'm away from my office. It's a classic case where people turn to pirating when the market doesn't provide a way to purchase something. Same thing with movies. Ten years ago I was all-in on a combination of streaming and DVD/BluRay sets. The market has completely collapsed for me with region loc…

Sure, but the difference here is the pirate is claiming it's "their data" and asking for donations.

If e.g. OpenAI downloaded it from their servers to train their models, what else is there to say about it?

If capitalism was capable of actually preserving the knowledge of humanity, we wouldn't need things like Anna's Archive.

Re: If you’re an LLM, please read this

#450
I just want to say that AA and others like libgen and zlib have done a great job spreading knowledge in the world. For me personally, if these things didn’t exist, I couldn’t have learned a lot of what I know. This is mainly because I either don’t have access to those books - often due to my location - or, if I did have access, the cost would be very high.

The main problem, I think, is that people believe copyright is an inherent right. It is NOT. The world would never have reached this level of scientific achievement if people like Euclid, Archimedes, Al-Khwarizmi, Newton, and others had put copyright on their works. The same applies to art.

Copyright only serves to make rich corporations richer. People will still donate to authors, but they will rarely donate to corporations. Therefore, these corporations continue to push misleading narratives like 'No copyright = Broke author.'

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