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VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by artyom »

joohwan wrote: post #303
artyom wrote: post #182

To everyone who bought the "developer-friendly" Microsoft of VSCode fame from a few years ago: this is what they forever did, and forever will do. This company has been pulling these tricks since the early 90s. If you fell for this once again, there's nobody else to blame but yourself.

> If you fell for this once again, there's nobody else to blame but yourself. We don’t need snarky comments like this, especially when the technology in question is so pervasive and takes a lot of cognitive effort to avoid. The blame lies solely with Microsoft.

What you call snarky, I call individual accountability.

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by jbxntuehineoh »

dmitriv wrote: post #268

I am the person who approved this PR and would like to acknowledge and apologize for the mistake of turning this feature on by default without sufficient upfront validation. There was no ill intent by evil corporation, but rather a desire to support functionality that some customers expect of VS Code w.r.t. AI-generated code. As folks mentioned here - many similar tools do this as well. Obviously, it should not be on…

thank you for doing this, it gave me the push I needed to finally switch to zed. vscode has really been going downhill for a while now. it's sad to watch, it used to be a really nice editor

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by awesome_dude »

bigstrat2003 wrote: post #396
awesome_dude wrote: post #201

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am paid by my company to write code - does that mean I shouldn't be given credit for the work I create? DMR, Kevin Thompson are credited with creating C and Unix, but they were paid employees of AT&T - where's the issue with them being credited for their work?

You, and those others, are people. The clanker is not, and should not get the privileges of a person.

"We made this in C#"

"Our team used Go"

"Rewrite it in Rust"

Funny, we credit technology all the time.

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by zahlman »

rsynnott wrote: post #26

One fascinating thing about the whole AI phenomenon is how incredibly hostile it is to _standards_. Whether something works properly, or is ethical, or is true, no longer matters at all; all that matters is "pls use our AI". Microsoft spent literal decades rehabilitating their reputation. And then set fire to the whole thing in an offering to their robot gods. And it's not just them. There was a time that Google care…

The entire selling point is "you no longer have to conform to standards in input to get usable output"; why would they conform to standards in output, or in process?

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by bjt »

bdangubic wrote: post #134
polski-g wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good point. That fake commit addendum means that the entire commit contents would not be under copyright protection. AI generated code is not currently copyrightable.

Not that simple… this is great read: https://legallayer.substack.com/p/who-owns-the-claude-code-w...

Still if you're the lawyer on the side of the lawsuit claiming that the code is copyrightable, you really don't want that copilot attribution in the commit message muddying the waters.

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by anvuong »

dmitriv wrote: post #268

I am the person who approved this PR and would like to acknowledge and apologize for the mistake of turning this feature on by default without sufficient upfront validation. There was no ill intent by evil corporation, but rather a desire to support functionality that some customers expect of VS Code w.r.t. AI-generated code. As folks mentioned here - many similar tools do this as well. Obviously, it should not be on…

Don't you understand that the default shouldn't be changed at all in this case? It improves nothing and affects every single user. If an org/project wants this behavior then it can enforce this flag for its contributions. The only valid reason for this change is someone's performance somewhere in Microsoft is dependent on VS Copilot usage metric.

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by andrekandre »

parineum wrote: post #391
krupan wrote: post #387

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This comment and a few others here make me feel old and sad for the people too young to remember that time. Yes, Google was an enormous breath of fresh air when it came out. 1000% better UI and features than the competition. Search was incredible. Gmail was a revelation. The whole company culture was night and day compared to the stodgy old tech companies like IBM. Just mind blowingly awesome. And then maps?? How did…

They basically revolutionized the web with the JavaScript V8 engine in chrome. Before them, JavaScript performance was so bad you had to have a really light touch with it.

  > JavaScript performance was so bad you had to have a really light touch with it.
yep, but slowly the web is going back to js == slow imo, so many sites are so heavy its insane...

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by matheusmoreira »

morpheos137 wrote: post #332
storus wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a complete takeover of technically incompetent management that feels like it can finally execute their ideas to the fullest instead of relying on those pesky swengs with their obstructions, complaints and problems. We'll soon get the management utopia everywhere.

Perennial HN trope: all bad tech evolutions are management's fault. Engineers are flawless paragons of technical purity.

Hard to blame the engineer when the engineer gets fired for not implementing management's whims. As much as I'd like to hold people accountable and say they should just accept getting fired instead of compromising the ideals, the truth is I've got a family now and if they paid me enough I'd do the same.

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by RandyOrion »

glitchc wrote: post #44
preommr wrote: post #11

I really hope the editor wars don't start again. I've been happily using VsCode for years now. More than happy in fact, it's one of the best pieces of software I've ever used, as evidenced by how AI companies basically started as a VsCode fork. But this is going full-throttle on enshittification. WTF happened at microsoft (github, openai partnership, copilot pricing) that all this shit just ramped up to a 11?

The editor wars never ended, and VSCode has been user hostile since inception. It came with unavoidable telemetry right out the gate.

Yeah, this is part of the reason why vscodium exists.

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by tardedmeme »

left-struck wrote: post #439
rsynnott wrote: post #26

One fascinating thing about the whole AI phenomenon is how incredibly hostile it is to _standards_. Whether something works properly, or is ethical, or is true, no longer matters at all; all that matters is "pls use our AI". Microsoft spent literal decades rehabilitating their reputation. And then set fire to the whole thing in an offering to their robot gods. And it's not just them. There was a time that Google care…

Wait, when did they rehabilitate their reputation? Before AI they were already shoving crap down our throats through windows 11.

Microsoft was making a big PR push to show everyone how they loved open source for a while.
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