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Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by e40 »

foobiekr wrote: post #16
oofbaroomf wrote: post #6

Wow. Hopefully, Ternus will bring what he brought to Apple's hardware to their software. The hardware is leaps and bounds ahead of anything else, but their software gets worse and worse every generation. I'm glad to hear this.

Hardware people, in my very direct experience, are terrible at software. But we can hope.

I've worked for 40+ years with a hardware guy and he's great at software, for one reason: attention to detail. In hardware, you have to test, test and test. There's no "fixed it later with a patch" (for the most part).

I don't have a lot of samples, just one. So, YMMV.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by root_axis »

hei-lima wrote: post #77
Tyrubias wrote: post #23

Tim Cook’s experience in logistics built Apple into the global hegemon it is today. I hope John Ternus’s experience with hardware can kick off a renaissance in both Apple hardware and software design. Mind you, Apple hardware is already amazing, but hopefully it can be even better with Ternus at the helm. Apple software is terrible, and hopefully Ternus can turn that around. I’m also hoping, without any evidence, tha…

Apple’s software is the best in the non-free software world compared to Google's or Microsoft's, IMO. But that doesn't mean it can't be better.

Maybe 20 years ago, today it's no better than anything else - well designed in some aspects, total trash in others. The stewards of xcode, spotlight and siri (among many other stinkers) are disqualified from the category of "best"

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by lateforwork »

CarbonCycles wrote: post #389

I commend Apple for hiring someone internally...someone who climbed up the ranks and understands the DNA of the company. Also think it's cool that John Ternus has only a bachelor's degree with a very down to earth presence. I completely dig his LI page being really bare bones. I suspect Apple is about to experience another Renaissance era...

Plus his degree is in mechanical engineering. I wonder how he climbed up the ranks of hardware engineering with a degree in mechanical engineering. Quite amazing.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by benoau »

thimabi wrote: post #65
tchalla wrote: post #39

> Under Cook’s leadership Apple has grown from a market capitalization of approximately $350 billion to $4 trillion, representing a more than 1,000% increase, and yearly revenue has nearly quadrupled, from $108 billion in fiscal year 2011 to more than $416 billion in fiscal year 2025. Quite successful.

I also liked the part about growing the company while reducing its carbon footprint by more than 60%. Even if that figure might somehow be inflated, it is impressive nonetheless.

It's probably an even bigger reduction considering their growth.

But it's still a net deficit of nearly 15 million tons of emissions of which practically none are offset.

https://www.apple.com/environment/pdf/Apple_Environmental_Pr...

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by bombcar »

pxc wrote: post #122
ValentineC wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> their laptops have great internals but are terrible from a usage perspective — I like to imagine their system board in a Thinkpad X1 Carbon chassis with native Linux! I don't know about Thinkpads, but the utterly pleasant glass trackpad is still one of the things I cannot find on most non-Mac laptops, despite every manufacturer being able to copy it for years. The closest I've found are the Surface laptop/cover tra…

> I don't know about Thinkpads, but the utterly pleasant glass trackpad is still one of the things I cannot find on most non-Mac laptops, despite every manufacturer being able to copy it for years. I was never a trackpad person until I finally got a Mac at work maybe 10 years ago. But since the trackpads stopped really clicking in favor of haptics, they're a lot worse than they used to be. I get false/double clicks a…

Interestingly enough the Neo went back to a clicking trackpad; you might want to try one and see how it feels for you.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by caycep »

boarsofcanada wrote: post #332
valine wrote: post #59

Apple silicon has been an unmitigated success so it makes sense they’d go with Ternus. On a related note Apple needs to add Ternus to their spell check dictionary

Apple Silicon wasn’t under his purview, that would be Johny Srouji. Not saying that Ternus wouldn’t have been involved in or part of the decision making process in moving the Mac to Apple-designed silicon, but I haven’t seen any indication he was any more involved than other execs at the company.

He also got promoted

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by LoganDark »

qubob wrote: post #416
alsetmusic wrote: post #169

I think it's interesting that the handoff will be complete on Sept 1. That would mean Ternus will helm his first iPhone launch that month. Auspicious timing. Curious the math they calculated when landing on this date. Certainly tees him up for an early win if the products are well-received.

Tim's departure announcement is timed between product announcements. Although, not a surprise to anyone As for Ternus' timing: A)Not very Apple to have the CEO do one last launch while on the way out the door (want the full throated, 1000% commitment in execs) B)Gives John stage for first time as CEO at September Keynote (historically a BFD) C)It felt right, among all the other time-slots and factors to consider D)Jo…

One more thing: See ya suckers! I'm outta here.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by lateforwork »

ebbi wrote: post #353
pzo wrote: post #338

I hope Ternus can turn this ship. Apple wasted the last 5 years without any significant innovation/revolution or even without significant evolution. No groundbreaking change from iphone 12 pro in current iphone 17 pro. Before we had many groundbreaking features that redefined how you use smarphone: - gps - flashlight (yes everybody with flashlight in the pocket!) - front selfie camera + video calls - compass + accele…

Every time I see this argument, it comes across as lazy. iPhone (and smartphones in general) are a mature product, so of course it'll be iterative. But you can't compare the camera from the first few iPhones to the latest ones. I certainly didn't expect, when the first iPhone launched, that the camera on an iPhone would replace my dedicated camera for 90% of my use cases.

> iPhone (and smartphones in general) are a mature product, so of course it'll be iterative.

That's the kind of thing people say when they are out of ideas. The reality is that the mobile phone market was already a mature market, with Nokia as the leader, even before the iPhone was released. Then Steve Jobs showed the world how to innovate.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by n8cpdx »

pzo wrote: post #338

I hope Ternus can turn this ship. Apple wasted the last 5 years without any significant innovation/revolution or even without significant evolution. No groundbreaking change from iphone 12 pro in current iphone 17 pro. Before we had many groundbreaking features that redefined how you use smarphone: - gps - flashlight (yes everybody with flashlight in the pocket!) - front selfie camera + video calls - compass + accele…

I think the satellite connectivity is a pretty big deal and iPhone led with that. Also camera control literally changed how I use the phone.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by whatever1 »

Tyrubias wrote: post #23

Tim Cook’s experience in logistics built Apple into the global hegemon it is today. I hope John Ternus’s experience with hardware can kick off a renaissance in both Apple hardware and software design. Mind you, Apple hardware is already amazing, but hopefully it can be even better with Ternus at the helm. Apple software is terrible, and hopefully Ternus can turn that around. I’m also hoping, without any evidence, tha…

The shareholders expect more profits. So no, the only way is ads and fees on the best sellers.

If they can make 50B from ads in the iPhone in 12 months why invent a new device that will make pennies.

Sorry folks, the math is brutal for the big corps. They cannot pivot and make cool things, the market demands to be milked until they bleed.

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