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Post by elictronic »

avaer wrote: post #81
postalcoder wrote: post #58

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I agree with the sentiment but I think for normie agents to take off in the way that you expect, you're going to have to grant them with full access. But, by granting agents full access, you immediately turn the computer into an extremely adversarial device insofar as txt files become credible threat vectors. For all the benefits that agents offer, they can be asymmetrically harmful. This is not a solved issue. That…

> for normie agents to take off in the way that you expect, you're going to have to grant them with full access At this point it's a foregone conclusion this is what users will choose. It'll be like (lack of) privacy on the internet caused by the ad industrial complex, but much worse and much more invasive. The threats are real, but it's just a product opportunity to these companies. OpenAI and friends will sell the…

2-3 news stories of people having bank accounts cleared and the product is dead on arrival.

Re: Codex for almost everything

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Post by gchamonlive »

Started using https://github.com/can1357/oh-my-pi this week and it makes every other tui coding assistant look like toy projects. It's has a nice UI yes, but the workflows it comes up with are incredible. They need to do a major overhaul in customisability for codex to come close to it.

Re: Codex for almost everything

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Post by mazurnification »

jeffgreco wrote: post #160
troupo wrote: post #54

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> What are you using today? In my experience LLMs are already pretty good at this. LLMS are good at "find me a two week vacation two months from now"? Or at "do my taxes"? > how to use Cowork. Yes, and I taught my mom how to use Apple Books, and have to re-teach her every time Apple breaks the interface. Ask your non-tech friends what they do with and how they feel about Cowork in a few weeks. > I think where our vie…

> LLMS are good at "find me a two week vacation two months from now"? Yes? === edit: Just tested it with that exact prompt on Claude. It asked me who I was traveling with, what type of trip and budget (with multiple choice buttons) and gave me a detailed itinerary with links to buy the flights ( https://www.kayak.com/flights/ORD-LIS/2026-06-13/OPO-ORD/202... )

Perfect - and this use case will be enshitificated first. LLM provider will charge small fee for proper recommendation placing. Got to recoup investment.

Re: Codex for almost everything

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Post by TeMPOraL »

ryandrake wrote: post #101
intended wrote: post #89

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There was a recent Stanford study which showed that AI enthusiasts and experts and the normies had very different sentiment when it came to AI. I think most people are going to say they dont want it. I mean, why would anyone want a tool that can screw up their bank account? What benefit does it gain them? Theres lots of cases of great highly useful LLM tools, but the moment they scale up you get slammed by the risks…

I agree, in general we are going to find that ultimately most employee end users don't want it. Assuming it actually makes you more productive. I mean, who the hell wants to be 10X more productive without a commensurate 10X compensation increase? You're just giving away that value to your employer. On the other hand, entrepreneurs and managers are going to want it for their employees (and force it on them) for the ab…

I want. If I get 10X more productive, I can unilaterally increase my compensation 10X by doing my stuff in 1 unit of time instead of 10 it took, and splitting the remaining 9 units of time into, say, 4 units of time doing more work, securing my position and setting myself up for promotion, and 5 units of time doing whatever the fuck I want. Not all compensation shows up in a bank account - working less, or under less stress, are also valuable.

Of course, such situation is only temporary - if I can suddenly be 10X productive, then so can everyone else, and then the baseline shifts so 10X is the new 1X.

Re: Codex for almost everything

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Post by TeMPOraL »

nonameiguess wrote: post #265
MrsPeaches wrote: post #126

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This is me! I’m semi-normie (MechEng with a bit of Matlab now working as a ceo). I spend most of my day in Claude code but outputs are word docs, presentations, excel sheets, research etc. I recently got it to plan a social media campaign and produce a ppt with key messaging and content calendar for the next year, then draft posts in Figma for the first 5 weeks of the campaign and then used a social media aggregator…

How does this obviate the need for software? In order for what you asked to be possible, Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and Figma all still need to exist and you need licenses for them. If you can figure out the next step and say "Claude, go find me buyers and sell shit for me without using any pre-existing software," have at it. It can't be social media, I guess, since social media is software and Claude is supposed to ge…

> How does this obviate the need for software?

It doesn't obviate the need for software, but it greatly devalues software products, as they become reduced to tool calls for LLMs.

This is good for users, because software products are defined by boundaries - borders drawn around the code to focus and package functionality, yes, but also to limit interoperability and create a sales channel (UX being the perfect marketing platform for captive audience).

After all, I don't usually want to play with Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and Figma - they're just standing between me and the artifact I want to create, so if I can get LLM to operate them for me, I don't have to deal with all the UX and marketing bullshit those products throw at me.

I mean, that's what I'd do if I could afford to hire a person to operate those tools for me. That, again, is the best mental model for LLMs - they're little people on a chip, cheaper to employ than actual people.

Re: Codex for almost everything

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Post by jampekka »

p1necone wrote: post #359
jmathai wrote: post #183

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After 25 years of writing code in vim, I've found myself managing a bunch of terminal sessions and trying to spot issues in pull requests. I wouldn't have thought this could be the case and it took me actually embracing it before I was fully sold. Maybe not a popular opinion but I really do believe... - code quality as we previously understood will not be a thing in 3-5 years - IDEs will face a very sharp decline in…

> code quality as we previously understood will not be a thing in 3-5 years Idk - I feel like the exact same quality, maintainability, readability stuff that makes developers more effective at writing code manually also accelerates LLM driven development. It's just less immediately obvious that your codebase being a spaghetti mess is slowing down the LLM because you're not the one having to deal with it directly anym…

I've found that models have improved here significantly in past few months. They have the tendency to pile on ad-hoc solutions by default, but are capable of doing better architectural decisions too if asked.

A better design can be made somewhat default by AGENTS.md instructions, but they can still make a mess unless on a short leash.

Re: Codex for almost everything

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Post by JodieBenitez »

aliasxneo wrote: post #237

Has anyone figured out how to stop the Codex app from draining my M5 Pro's battery in like 2 hours? I can literally just have it open and my lap turns into a heater. I've tried adjusting all sorts of settings and haven't been able to make a dent. I'm assuming its the garbage renderer.

Ditched it for this very reason... it used to be fine before. I use Codex CLI now, it doesn't drain the battery. I prefer the desktop app but the CLI is ok.

Re: Codex for almost everything

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Post by dear_prudence »

cultofmetatron wrote: post #176
daviding wrote: post #10

There seems a fair enthusiasm in the UI of these to hide code from coders. Like the prompt interaction is the true source and the actual code is some sort of annoying intermediate runtime inconvenience to cover up. I get that productivity can be improved with a lot of this for non developers, just not sure using 'code' as the term is the right one or not.

> There seems a fair enthusiasm in the UI of these to hide code from coders. Like the prompt interaction is the true source and the actual code is some sort of annoying intermediate runtime inconvenience to cover up. I've finally started getting into AI with a coding harness but I've take the opposite approach. usually I have the structure of my code in my mind already and talk to the prompt like I'm pairing with it.…

I personally have been finding good results "hiding the code" behind the harnesses. I do have to rely on verification and testing a lot, which I also get the AI to do, but for most of the cases it works out well enough. A good verification and testing setup with automated, strict reviewing goes a long way.

Re: Codex for almost everything

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Post by ymolodtsov »

Tried it out. It's a far more reasonable UI than Claude Desktop at this moment. Anthropic has to catch up and finally properly merge the three tabs they have.

The killer feature of any of these assistants, if you're a manager, is asking to review your email, Slack, Notion, etc several times a day to highlight the items where you need to engage right away. Of course, if your company allows the connectors to do so.

Codex is pretty seamless right now and even after they cut on their 5-hr limits their $20 plan is still a little bit more generous.

I'd still say that Claude models are superior and just offer good opinionated defaults.

Re: Codex for almost everything

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Post by vinhnx »

A simple mental model for Claude's new adaptive thinking is that it is the recommended way to use extended thinking. Adaptive Thinking (wraps Extended Thinking). It applies to Opus 4.7, 4.6, and Sonnet 4.6 and is the default mode on Claude Mythos Preview.
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