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Molotov cocktail is hurled at home of Sam Altman

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Post by lukewarm707 »

strongpigeon wrote: post #116
sophacles wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're just a smidge away from asking why they can't just eat cake...

I think you're extrapolating a lot from my comment... One can reasonably think something has to be done to address the current (and upcoming) economic situation and think that molotov cocktails won't help. Acts like these will likely make things much worse before settling into a new situation that's probably just slightly worse.

has the temperature gone up?

no, the mob is forming at the gate, and they are starting to climb

Re: Molotov cocktail is hurled at home of Sam Altman

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Post by DoneWithAllThat »

strongpigeon wrote: post #36

It is a bit scary how people seem to genuinely be OK with violence (see this reddit thread [0]). Is just me or does it feel like the overall "temperature" has gone up. [0] https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1shugf8/firebomb_t...

The replies to your comment help make your point. These people genuinely think violence is fine, inevitable and justified.

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Post by analog8374 »

strongpigeon wrote: post #36

It is a bit scary how people seem to genuinely be OK with violence (see this reddit thread [0]). Is just me or does it feel like the overall "temperature" has gone up. [0] https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1shugf8/firebomb_t...

Does causing mass poverty count as violence? Because it's kind of like violence.

Re: Molotov cocktail is hurled at home of Sam Altman

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Post by MiguelX413 »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #279
2dfs wrote: post #240

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I think youre misreading it entirely, doesnt surprise me given that you're a VC. Here's one of the posts on that thread: "I mean one thing is to use AI or even ChatGPT as a product, and another is being aware of how billionaires treat the rest of the people As for Sam, he also has pretty controversial views for how this whole thing will pan out and how he doesn't give a shit about the consequences it might have for t…

> whilst having a distasteful view of the leaders of the industry I have a tremendously distasteful view of a lot of Silicon Valley leadership. Doesn’t mean I want them to suffer at the hands of vigilante justice.

Why not?

Re: Molotov cocktail is hurled at home of Sam Altman

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Post by chaosharmonic »

dan-robertson wrote: post #329
lazyasciiart wrote: post #208

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Well, dropping bombs and threatening to end a civilization certainly made me think the temperature had gone up. I’m not sure I think a single attempted act against some guy is worth being worried by against that backdrop.

I think much the reaction to the Brian Thompson killing also seemed ok with the violence despite it happening before the events you describe, though I guess that could be an outlier.

That's because Brian Thompson was functionally a serial killer.

Re: Molotov cocktail is hurled at home of Sam Altman

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Post by tremon »

swat535 wrote: post #398
tptacek wrote: post #238

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These are message boards. The obvious sentiment, that firebombing attacks are awful (perhaps cut a little bit with "the perpetrator appears to be someone deeply in need of help) is boring. This is an availability bias issue: the only sentiments that actually spool out into threads are edgy. Once you learn to spot these effects, message boards make a lot more sense and are less jarring.

Another good thread to follow is the murdering of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42317604 It's an interesting exercise to compare these threads. My own position on the matter is the not an edgy one: political violence of any kind, is never justified, but it does signal that something deep in society requires a change.

I'm of the view that it's violence of the non-political kind that is never justified*. Political violence can be legitimized, as an option of last resort. There's plenty of historical examples where groups of people were denied every avenue of redress until they turned violent. As an example, read up on the history of most labour unions.

* one exception being defense of life and limb.

Re: Molotov cocktail is hurled at home of Sam Altman

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Post by bnwrt »

Sf Chronicle speaks of an "alleged attack", where a Molotov Cocktail was thrown at the outer gate. Looking at the picture there was zero chance of the house catching fire.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/molotov-cocktail-c...

So the arrested suspect is either the wrong person, did not actually want to kill anyone or has no clue how fire spreads.

A strange incident that will make many people think of sending a noose to oneself (where oneself does not have to be Altman, but a pro-AI org who wants to generate sympathy).

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Post by bloody-crow »

NickC25 wrote: post #346
TehCorwiz wrote: post #22

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Well, Sam Altman and Jensen Huang are going around bragging about how many people they're going to push out of employment. Might have something to do with it.

This. Sam's got 3 billion net worth. Jensen's got 165 billion to his name. They are giddy about taking jobs away, and both are engaged in "tax reduction strategies" and suck up to Donald Trump. You wonder why people are pissed?

> They are giddy about taking jobs away

This is just your interpretation. My interpretation is that they talk about computers being able to perform some intellectual tasks that are now handled by humans in a more efficient and fast manner. They're excited about technological progress and new opportunities it provides, not being "giddy" about unemployment and economic uncertainty.

> suck up to Donald Trump

When you're a head of multi-billion dollar company that employ thousands of people and respond to board that expects your company to continue growing and make money for them, it's strategically dumb and irresponsible to NOT suck up to the most childish and vindictive person who has real power to screw over you and all the people you employ who expect you do everything in your power to prevent this.

If you don't do that and Trump fucks your company over as a result, you're just bad at your job as a CEO.

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