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France's aircraft carrier located in real time by Le Monde through fitness app

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Post by dmos62 »

ua709 wrote: post #434
dmos62 wrote: post #398

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What are some instances of a large group of people hiding something for long periods of time and then getting found out? Snowden? Epstein? Are these cases the bulk of the conspiracies or is it the tip of the iceberg? I'd like to think it's the latter, for purely egocentric reasons: conspiracies stimulate my imagination like almost nothing else: keep them coming, please.

Snowden was a good one. A similar leak was a big deal when I was a kid https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON Established in the 60s so it was kept pretty secret for a long period of time. It's interesting to think that the government has been using technology to watch us for awhile but now thanks to ubiquitous networks, cheap internet, phone and apps like tinder and strava and a bit of ingenuity, we can watch back. :…

Wow, that is a good one. I'm surprised that I've not heard of it. Maybe not admitting something officially really does help in keeping something out of press. The list of intercept stations is comic: all except ~4 are in US or allied countries that are far from any adversaries.

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Post by drivebyhooting »

jlarocco wrote: post #385
drivebyhooting wrote: post #269

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I wish defense paid better. The problems are infinitely more interesting than ads. And it’s not like social media is a saint anyway.

IME here in Colorado, a lot of them pay as well, or better, than run of the mill tech companies. I suspect the AI and "FAANG" companies may pay more, but I personally wouldn't work for any of those. In any case, I'd take $160k in Colorado over $240k in California any day. And the problems are definitely a lot more interesting.

The problem is BigTech pays $800K or even $1M+.

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Post by nssnsjsjsjs »

system2 wrote: post #418
nssnsjsjsjs wrote: post #333

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101 assumptions programmers make about running apps. 23: The ground beneath the runner's feet has stable lat/lon.

There is no meaningful solution to this.

You could compare phone and watch coords assuming phone can be left in one spot.

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Post by polotics »

nradov wrote: post #425
Terr_ wrote: post #422

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It doesn't need to be anything nearly that dramatic as assassins, because economies of scale both lower the bar and make most attacks impersonal . Consider how odd it would be for someone in 2025 to say: "Computer security?I haven't done anything to personally offend a genius hacker." Imagine this data going to a burglar, who has a digital dashboard of nearby one-person properties and when the owner is likely to be o…

What a weird comment. The type of low-end criminal who commits home burglaries aren't sophisticated enough to do that level of research.

do you have any evidence to back your claim? gangs employing teams of underage burglars assisted by risk averse adults with skills for entry and targeting are a thing. everyone has a mobile phone.

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Post by jandrewrogers »

themafia wrote: post #423
reactordev wrote: post #350

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It’s impossible for any projectile to come towards an aircraft carrier of the US and not be detected. Technically impossible. You’re only hope is that they don’t have CIWS turned on. A 20mm Vulkan cannon of computerized vision models pointed right at you.

> computerized vision models The CIWS is radar guided.

Modern ones are broad-spectrum optical.

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Post by adgjlsfhk1 »

XorNot wrote: post #414
lazide wrote: post #405

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Fixed wing? Using Starlink perhaps? $10k or so, maybe less. Taking out a billion dollar asset with a couple million dollars worth of drones and a few (more expensive) anti ship missles? Priceless.

A Ukrainian high speed Shahed interceptor costs that much and has a very short range. You're off by at least an order of magnitude. The camera mount you'd have to put on such a drone would cost about that much, probably more. You're also vastly underestimating just how big the ocean actually is. And finding the aircraft carrier is not the penultimate step to destroying it (a "few" anti shipping missiles aren't gettin…

interceptors are much shorter range than attack/scouting drones because they need to go a lot faster and be more manuverable than the target they are intercepting. Cameras are cheap and really light compared to ordinance, and ziplime was able to make a fleet of fairly cheap drones with 200 mile range (as a private company a decade ago). Cheap drones definitely can maintain targeting of a carrier within a couple hundred miles of the coast (and if you can get to 5-600 miles you keep most carrier based aircraft out of range of your shores)

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Post by DaedalusII »

applfanboysbgon wrote: post #439
nanoparticle wrote: post #313

About 3 years ago, a former russian submarine commander accused of a missile attack in Ukraine that killed 23 civilians, was shot and killed, apparently after his route was tracked via Strava https://edition.cnn.com/2023/07/11/europe/russian-submarine-... https://gijn.org/stories/investigations-using-strava-fitness...

Crazy to die because you used a jogging app. Really goes to show the value of privacy. And, you know, not committing war crimes that would make people want to hunt you down and kill you. Either or.

I have to call out this disingenuous mob like language which is basically saying "because this person served in the military of a UN Security Council member, it is justifiable to murder them in the street years into their retirement"

how is a submarine commander committing war crimes?

by the same way of thinking, it would be completely justified for people from many countries to show up at random US service members houses and shoot them in the street , or perhaps attack their embassies, commit suicide bombings...

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Post by Starman_Jones »

jmyeet wrote: post #278
jandrewrogers wrote: post #23

This is a common problem across militaries. It is difficult to stop soldiers from leaking their location if they have access to mobile phones and the Internet. Individual cases are usually a combination of naïveté, ignorance, and an unwillingness to be inconvenienced. It still happens in Ukraine, where immediate risk to life and limb is much more severe than this case.

It's this kind of incident that gives me faith that the military isn't hiding aliens and in fact pretty much any grand conspiracy that requires secrecy across a large group of people for long periods of time can pretty much be dismissed immediately. One of my favorite examples are the soldiers who leaked classified information to win arguments on online forums [1]. Similar incidents have occurred with a Minecraft Dis…

To add to your point, the War Thunder leaks aren't isolated to one or two incidents; they keep happening! IIRC, every UN security council member has had classified military documents leaked multiple times. Regarding aliens, there's just no way that an E-4 wouldn't have posted dozens of pictures to prove that 'The Grays' are actually more of a purple color.
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