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Who exactly are you blaming here, the IDF or the boys family?
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This happened in the west bank.
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> i am very doubtful there will ever be a peaceful solution. I wonder if there’s room for any actual discussion here. This topic is damned from the first upvote. Curious what people’s thoughts are about a non-peaceful solution. For example, do you think that other countries should send their militaries over to help one of the sides win?
All I can think is that there is no chance of proper peace talks or any kind of truth commission since oct 7 / the genocide in Gaza. The most likely outcome in my view is that Israel succeeds in cleansing and redeveloping Gaza and keeps settling and splitting up the West Bank until the Palestinians become nothing but 2nd class citizens in a singular state. This will not stop the terror attacks. It's all very depressi…
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#443Sad story. War is sad. 2 countries in a war that cannot end otherwise.
Its either Palestine or Israel unfortunately.
Put your good will and emotions somewhere it can actually make a sensible difference guys
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#444Sad story. War is sad. 2 countries in a war that cannot end otherwise. Its either Palestine or Israel unfortunately. Put your good will and emotions somewhere it can actually make a sensible difference guys
The West Bank is not part of the war (if you can even call the Gaza war a war, it's an extermination campaign, but still, people do call that a war).
This is just a regular tuesday massacre for the IDF, not an ongoing conflict, just occupation policing.
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If you don’t mind developing, what made you switch stance ? many people never change their minds even when faced with overwhelming evidence , and based on your prior level of support, I’m quite curious about the actual process .
Hard to tell in retrospect. I think the thick layer of distrust against palestinians (which was built by debunked lie after lie from Hamas etc over the years) was finally breached by the sheer asimmetry of power that Israeli forces have gained against Palestinian civilians.
Just forget that the two parties are Jews and Arabs and instead make them Suaheli and Kazakh, and then put one group in such an "agency-less" position as Palestinians are, and give the other group the leverage in power as the Israelis have, plus the grievances. Even if you can understand these grievances – there is just no way these things aren't going to happen.
Plus: The state of Gaza has reached a level of destruction that is just ... well basically as if they have nuked the place (Like I initally favoured). At some point the humane thing would be to call it a win and leave. An that point has probably passed a long time ago.
Plus, I have read about the background of some of Netanjahu's cabinet members and they essentially tick all the boxes of what I find problematic with the aforementioned power asimmetry:
Prior aggresive behaviour against Palestinian civlians in the settlement areas, with the victims having no proper way of legal recourse. Like ganging up on random Arabs there and beating them up. I know there is backlash for this from within Israeli society but man, things are bad if a literal street thug is getting a place in the cabinet, because he behaved that way.
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> nuke Gaza for good Some great empathy for innocent civilians you got there, monster.
Lets just say many Gazans didn't display any empathy for dead or almost dead civilians either that they dragged into the city and instead were filming themselves celebrating over corpses, and captured women bleeding from their r_pings as well as from the achilles-heel cuts applied. A technique highlighting how deep enslavement-culture run in this part of the world.
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#448This is outrageous. No humanity by the Israeli government and the IDF
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#449For those wondering, it is verifiable story, it is covered as fact in Israeli newspapers: https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-forces-kill-west-bank-... https://www.ynetnews.com/article/p7mq5k5bs The main justification floated is that the car was "going fast" and thus made the undercover Israeli soldiers feel unsafe. The New York Times describes it as such: "Ali Bani Odeh’s wife and four young boys hadn’t seen him i…
"The main justification floated is that the car was "going fast" and thus made the undercover Israeli soldiers feel unsafe."
Funny way of saying trying to run someone over.
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All I can think is that there is no chance of proper peace talks or any kind of truth commission since oct 7 / the genocide in Gaza. The most likely outcome in my view is that Israel succeeds in cleansing and redeveloping Gaza and keeps settling and splitting up the West Bank until the Palestinians become nothing but 2nd class citizens in a singular state. This will not stop the terror attacks. It's all very depressi…
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Israel has put Gaza under siege & total blockade since 2006. The population has been used for low paid work in Israel and treated more or less like cattle.