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Re: We do not think Anthropic should be designated as a supply chain risk

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From that same X thread: Our agreement with the Department of War upholds our redlines [1] OpenAI has the same redlines as Anthopic based on Altman's statements [2]. However somehow Anthropic gets banished for upholding their redlines and OpenAI ends up with the cash? [1]: https://xcancel.com/OpenAI/status/2027846013650932195#m [2]: https://www.npr.org/2026/02/27/nx-s1-5729118/trump-anthropic...

They can say it on X. But will they refuse to do work?

Re: We do not think Anthropic should be designated as a supply chain risk

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It spends the defence budget...

Which is used primarily for offense anyway

Maybe.

I was just saying that the purpose of the Department of Defence is to spend the "defence budget".

Re: We do not think Anthropic should be designated as a supply chain risk

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OpenAI is playing games. When Anthropic says they have red lines, they mean "We refuse to let you use our models for these ends, even if it means losing nearly a billion dollars in business." When OpenAI says they have red lines, they mean "We are going to let the DoD do whatever the hell they want, but we will shake our fist at them while they do it." That's why they got the contract. The DoD was clear about what th…

I am going to stop using ChatGPT immediately.

I just deleted my account. The other LLMs are so good that I don't even feel like I'm sacrificing much.

Re: We do not think Anthropic should be designated as a supply chain risk

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Did you guys really think that the jurisprudential issues that became endemic after 9/11 suddenly disappeared because we discovered LLMs? Let’s put pressure on our government to fix the FISA issues. Let’s reign in the executive branch. But let’s do it through voting. Let’s not give up on our system of government because we have new shiny technology. You were naive if you thought developing new technologies was the so…

> But let’s do it through voting. You don't get a successful vote without a tremendous amount of coordination and activism preceding it. Laws that constrain government from bad things are very difficult things to get the government to pass. In the meantime, using completely legal civil power to push back on legally allowed harms seems beyond sensible. But if you just vote and it works without all that, please let us…

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Re: We do not think Anthropic should be designated as a supply chain risk

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People forget Anthropic made a deal with PALANTIR. And when this was caught, they just spinned the PR to their favor. While OAI may not be seen as the good guys, I really hope people see the god complex of Dario and what Anthropic has done.

You don't understand what palantir does.

Direct quote from their CEO:

> Our product is used on occasion to kill people.

Doesn't get any more clear than this.

Re: We do not think Anthropic should be designated as a supply chain risk

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From what I can tell, the key difference between Anthropic and OpenAI in this whole thing is that both want the same contract terms, but Antropic wants to enforce those terms via technology, and OpenAI wants to enforce them by ... telling the Government not to violate them. It's telling that the government is blacklisting the company that wants to do more than enforce the contract with words on paper.

The key difference is that Anthropic aired their disagreement with the DoD publicly, and the DoD is not going to work with a company that tries to exert any amount of control over their relationship via the public sphere. Same goes for Trump.

I think Anthropic knew full well that by publishing their disagreement, it would sink the deal and relationship, and I think they also calculated (correctly) that that act of defiance would get them good publicity and potentially peel away some of OpenAIs user base. I think this profit incentive happened to align with their morals, and now here we are.

Re: We do not think Anthropic should be designated as a supply chain risk

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Only Congress can change the name of a federal department, so the Department of Defense is still properly called that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_14347

Only Congress can declare war but here we are with the department of war bombing a foreign country and capturing and assassinating foreign leaders.

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Re: We do not think Anthropic should be designated as a supply chain risk

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Even your link doesn't say what you imply. > It provides that the president can send the U.S. Armed Forces into action abroad only by Congress's "statutory authorization", or in case of "a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces". There was not at attack on the United States.

I don't know why we're getting mired in the details here. The administration certainly isn't. We all work for trump now. Lawyers, journalists, universities, tech companies, state, local and foreign governments. Anything trump or one of his designated people wants, you need to do. If you start sputtering about your agency or your rights or your sovereignty, then expect as much shit thrown at you as the trump organizat…

The point is that someone claimed the law was changed, and then linked to something that didn't support the claim.

Yes, Trump is ignoring the law, but you have to be aware that he is crossing the line rather than gas lighting that there wasn't a line at all.

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